Forgot About The Darnold Vs. Rosen Rivalry

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If Rosen becomes our starting QB, then Jets week just became more intense and interesting as Darnold (USC) versus Rosen (UCLA) rivalry will become the talk of the week!
 

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not going to be a rivalry when we are winning super bowls and Sam Darnold is crippled thanks to Adam Gase and his coaching
I wouldn't be so sure of this... Jets are truly concerning imo given their stout physical defense run by Williams. Now Gase will have all the time to put his focus on the offense which should only improve in Darnold's second year. Exciting times for Jets fans.
 

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At the end of the day all this QB vs QB is just talk. Rosen would be going up against their defense and Darlnold against ours. Neither one of them can stop the other team's offense.
Eh, tend to disagree. What you are saying essentially means that there was no added allure to matchups like Jim Kelly vs Dan Marino? Tom Brady vs Peyton Manning? Steve Young vs Troy Aikmen?

Not saying that Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold will ever be anywhere near that level haha, but there is certainly an added watch-factor to certain qb matchups. Especially those on high-powered offenses. Which quarterback can pilot their offense to more points? A conversation that neither the Jets or Dolphins offenses have been anywhere near for the past 20 or so years.
 

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I wouldn't be so sure of this... Jets are truly concerning imo given their stout physical defense run by Williams. Now Gase will have all the time to put his focus on the offense which should only improve in Darnold's second year. Exciting times for Jets fans.
Gregg Williams was a hell of a DC back in the day and he does have a great way of getting players to force turnovers.

Since the passing offense it Jas rendered him ineffective since his philosophies have become outdated. Look at the passing defense stats in Cleveland. Plus his super-alpha persona won't mesh with Gase's. The big hire is not always the right one
 

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Gregg Williams was a hell of a DC back in the day and he does have a great way of getting players to force turnovers.

Since the passing offense it Jas rendered him ineffective since his philosophies have become outdated. Look at the passing defense stats in Cleveland. Plus his super-alpha persona won't mesh with Gase's. The big hire is not always the right one
He'll put a bounty on Gase by game 10.
 

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So let's go back to their actual on field rivalry.

USC played UCLA one time when both were there, in 2017.

USC won 28 to 23.

However: USC had a 10-2 team that year, Rosen 6-7.

Darnold passed for 17 of 28 for 264 and a pick.

Rosen passed for 35 of 52 for 421, 3 TDs and a pick.

Head to head Darnold is 1 and 0 versus Rosen, but Rosen was probably the only thing keeping his crappy team in it.
 

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Eh, tend to disagree. What you are saying essentially means that there was no added allure to matchups like Jim Kelly vs Dan Marino? Tom Brady vs Peyton Manning? Steve Young vs Troy Aikmen?

Not saying that Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold will ever be anywhere near that level haha, but there is certainly an added watch-factor to certain qb matchups. Especially those on high-powered offenses. Which quarterback can pilot their offense to more points? A conversation that neither the Jets or Dolphins offenses have been anywhere near for the past 20 or so years.
No I'm not saying it's not fun to watch two great QB's in the same game. But at the end of the day they each faces the defense and not each other. Yes it's each other's team but you have to look at the defense on both teams. Imagine for example if Rosen is facing the 85 Bears defense but Darlnold is facing our defense from last year. Which of the two QB's has it easier? And if Rosen and the offense scores 14 points VS the bears defense and Darlnold and his offense scores 17 points vs our horrible defense, would you say Darlnold beat Rosen?
 

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So let's go back to their actual on field rivalry.

USC played UCLA one time when both were there, in 2017.

USC won 28 to 23.

However: USC had a 10-2 team that year, Rosen 6-7.

Darnold passed for 17 of 28 for 264 and a pick.

Rosen passed for 35 of 52 for 421, 3 TDs and a pick.

Head to head Darnold is 1 and 0 versus Rosen, but Rosen was probably the only thing keeping his crappy team in it.
That's true but Rosen played poorly in the 2015 game against USC when the opposing quarterback was Cody Kessler. That was a much better UCLA team than 2017. UCLA was only a small underdog but got blown out 40-21. Rosen threw a couple of interceptions and completed only half his throws.

Granted, he was only a freshman but as a USC alum I remember being surprised that Rosen didn't step up in that game.

Rosen had several midseason injuries during 2016 so he missed the end of the season and the first opportunity to go head to head against Darnold.
 
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