CONFIRMED CORRECT Fresh Rumor Phins Trading An All Pro - Ramsey

[Mach2]

Of course it's different.

My point is that the OP of this thread uses Slick Rick as a reference, who pretty clearly has a higher incidence of being accurate than almost all of the literal hundreds of thousands of others.

So this thread, understandably, gets a little more credence as a result.

It gets whatever creedance the individual gives it.

I mean you (figuratively) can assign it any level of credence you want and express that opinion, but you (again figuratively) can't dictate how much others should give it.

It's still a twitter rumor until it isn't, and unless it comes from a Shefter, Baldy, Rappaport, etc., I don't give it even 50% credibility, to the extent that there even an empirical way to measure such a thing.

You do you, though. I have no issue with it. If there's pushback, though, it's totally understandable in my view.

That said, pushback and getting personal about it are not the same thing.

 

[lurking]

Everyone does. Those timely drops and getting things cleaned up is the difference between a Dolphins team and a Chiefs team.

The QB is the difference, one can will his team to victory and one can’t.

 

[bdizzle00]

The QB is the difference, one can will his team to victory and one can’t.

That’s certainly part of it.

 

[The Goat]

It gets whatever creedance the individual gives it.

I mean you (figuratively) can assign it any level of credence you want and express that opinion, but you (again figuratively) can't dictate how much others should give it.

It's still a twitter rumor until it isn't, and unless it comes from a Shefter, Baldy, Rappaport, etc., I don't give it even 50% credibility, to the extent that there even an empirical way to measure such a thing.

You do you, though. I have no issue with it. If there's pushback, though, it's totally understandable in my view.

That said, pushback and getting personal about it are not the same thing.

I think I may have lost the plot here.

I'm just saying that a thread using a Twitter reference who has demonstrable results of being accurate is going to be given more credence by everyone, not just by me, than a thread using a Twitter reference that pretty clearly just makes things up.

That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[phinsforlife]

I have seen no credible reports that Ramsey was showing up late, not putting in the work, etc.

This is where BS narratives are born.

Not blaming you for an "if" opinion. Just saying.

Is there evidence that suggests JR was involved in that? When I see a term like "rumblings" used, it's a pretty good sign that good ole Twatter clickbait speculation is being taken as credible sources.

you got the wrong guy for the if opinion, i was responding to someone else (post #33 SF dolphins fan) who was citing reports of ramsey being late, that is why i started mine with an "if." you can ask him where he heard that from i guess.

 

[eMCee85]

I think I may have lost the plot here.

I'm just saying that a thread using a Twitter reference who has demonstrable results of being accurate is going to be given more credence by everyone, not just by me, than a thread using a Twitter reference that pretty clearly just makes things up.

That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

The plot is, you gave this one credit due to your version of credibility and opened your stupid mouth in a much different manner in the other thread. Lmao

Same topic, from the same type of media putting it out there (X), but just because it's someone who's guessed a few things right, you give it credibility. Too bad your posts don't have as much as slick ricks guesses tho

 

[Mach2]

I think I may have lost the plot here.

I'm just saying that a thread using a Twitter reference who has demonstrable results of being accurate is going to be given more credence by everyone, not just by me, than a thread using a Twitter reference that pretty clearly just makes things up.

That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

Except that isn't, necessarily, true. You might expect "everyone" to give it more credibility. It may even be worthy of it, but that's still a matter of opinion, and "everyone" may not give it the credibility you, personally, think it should receive.

That's my whole point. You may see, or believe it deserves credibility where another may not.

It isn't a right or wrong situation. At least not until the predicted event either occurs or does not. Just because one disagrees with your personal credibility assessment, doesn't mean they are stupid.

But yes, we have spent enough time on this rabbit hole. Ppl are going to make their own individual judgment on how much weight to give a random tweet.

 

[Mach2]

you got the wrong guy for the if opinion, i was responding to someone else (post #33 SF dolphins fan) who was citing reports of ramsey being late, that is why i started mine with an "if." you can ask him where he heard that from i guess.

No. What I meant was I realized you said "if". Point being I wasn't attributing the claim to you. I knew it wasn't your claim originally.

I was just pointing out I haven't seen anything indicating JR was less than professional in his actions/approach.

Sorry for any confusion.

 

[Ray R]

You must've overlooked a lot of posts in the other thread.

But anyway, I already know how it is. No more use of pointing things out anymore. I'm moving on now, you won't hear no more out of me about it

Thank you.

 

[Ray R]

The QB is the difference, one can will his team to victory and one can’t.

Occasionally, but as a reality, that's just a load of "manure".

 

[phinsforlife]

No. What I meant was I realized you said "if". Point being I wasn't attributing the claim to you. I knew it wasn't your claim originally.

I was just pointing out I haven't seen anything indicating JR was less than professional in his actions/approach.

Sorry for any confusion.

thanks. ask SF dolphin fan, i guess he heard it somewhere. would be interesting to know if legit or not. that would be a giant problem if both were captains and were showing up late. its a big problem if one was doing it. we do know, the tardiness and lack of professionalism issues go beyond just tyreek. the dolphins media wont give names, but it is more than one guy, and i get the sense the other problem guys were also players that are senior and in leadership roles. nobody would really care if it was one of the special teams guys. in fact, those guys do it, they get cut. it is only the good players that can get away with this crap. there are certain organizations that wouldnt even let the good players get away with it to the degree we seem to.

 

[The Goat]

Except that isn't, necessarily, true. You might expect "everyone" to give it more credibility. It may even be worthy of it, but that's still a matter of opinion, and "everyone" may not give it the credibility you, personally, think it should receive.

That's my whole point. You may see, or believe it deserves credibility where another may not.

It isn't a right or wrong situation. At least not until the predicted event either occurs or does not. Just because one disagrees with your personal credibility assessment, doesn't mean they are stupid.

But yes, we have spent enough time on this rabbit hole. Ppl are going to make their own individual judgment on how much weight to give a random tweet.

I wouldn't expect everyone to, but suggesting that credibility is strictly based on individual assessment is silly.

Let's put it this way:

If ONE car brand has a survey conducted, and it results in a 75% reliability rate over 5 years, and another brand has a result of a 50% reliability rate, are you going to say "No, that's just your opinion, you may think Car A is more reliable than Car B, but another may not?'

Of course not. It's literally demonstrable that one car is more reliable. So that's the car you depend on.

 

[Mach2]

I wouldn't expect everyone to, but suggesting that credibility is strictly based on individual assessment is silly.

Let's put it this way:

If ONE car brand has a survey conducted, and it results in a 75% reliability rate over 5 years, and another brand has a result of a 50% reliability rate, are you going to say "No, that's just your opinion, you may think Car A is more reliable than Car B, but another may not?'

Of course not. It's literally demonstrable that one car is more reliable. So that's the car you depend on.

Yet both models will sell. If you take that line of thinking to it's inevitable conclusion, that car manufacturer of car B would be bankrupt.

Besides that, your analogy is a product a consumer is spending considerable money for. Ppl have an expectation of value, getting what they pay for. Tweets don't cost a consumer anything.

 

[The Goat]

Yet both models will sell. If you take that line of thinking to it's inevitable conclusion, that car manufacturer of car B would be bankrupt.

Besides that, your analogy is a product a consumer is spending considerable money for. Ppl have an expectation of value, getting what they pay for. Tweets don't cost a consumer anything.

Or...Car B would just lose so much money that it would stop making cars in the market. The example was literally Toyota vs Isuzu.

The analogy wasn't about expenditure. It was about reliability, and why people prefer one to the other.

 

[JamesWsenior]

Man, Friday night and everyone arguing. Go out have a beer. Get filled up on spicy chicken wings. Find a girl and try not to throw up on her.