from a bills fan: bills passing game vs our d

[isaacjunk]

- Josh Allen has gotten way better at audibling smartly based on presnap look
- the exotic blitzes got there just enough in the first half and just not quite enough in the second
- against cover 0 -- Bills decided to go with WR screens
- Cole Beasley >> Nik Needham
- we are built to play man not zone which limits counters to any weak leak in our man scheme
- with top corners we can expend extra folks for exotic blitzes but Bills have answers now

Kind of justifies the Noah Igbo pick. We had 3 good corners already, but if you want us to match up against Bills/Chiefs, you need 3 top corners not 2. For some reason our D is not built to play zone at a high level. Both AJ and Noah were project picks that appear to have busted but the reasoning behind the personnel choice made sense. If anything they tried to bargain basement both picks (starting caliber LT, corner who can man up Cole Beasley typically demands more than what they paid draft wise) and got burnt.

 

[Sirspud]

Noah should be playing. Forget Justin Coleman. The team is 1-7 now (I think....I've lost track of the losses). Play the young guys who have a chance of getting better. But they won't. Floundering coaches never do.

 

[srp1979]

Both AJ and Noah were project picks that appear to have busted but the reasoning behind the personnel choice made sense. If anything they tried to bargain basement both picks (starting caliber LT, corner who can man up Cole Beasley typically demands more than what they paid draft wise) and got burnt.

You dont bargain basement picks in the 1st round though. We didnt stick to best player available either and we could of had AJ and Igi in a later round.....which compounds these bad decisions.

 

[Marino2.0]

The way to draft is to take the surest thing with every pick. It’s really not complicated. You stack up good players until you have a good team. If you find yourself with 40 good players and no stars, or a hole at an important position, you trade future picks or spend money to fill the gaps. Or better yet, you sign quality vets on the cheap who want to join a good team where they can fill a hole and help contribute to a contender.

What you can’t do is fix a roster with 40 bad players by hitting on a handful of picks or spending big money to fill a handful of holes. It doesn’t work. Your good players look bad because they’re stretched too thin trying to compensate for bad players, and your bad players look bad because they’re bad.

 

[Jimi]

The way to draft is to take the surest thing with every pick. It’s really not complicated. You stack up good players until you have a good team. If you find yourself with 40 good players and no stars, or a hole at an important position, you trade future picks or spend money to fill the gaps. Or better yet, you sign quality vets on the cheap who want to join a good team where they can fill a hole and help contribute to a contender.

What you can’t do is fix a roster with 40 bad players by hitting on a handful of picks or spending big money to fill a handful of holes. It doesn’t work. Your good players look bad because they’re stretched too thin trying to compensate for bad players, and your bad players look bad because they’re bad.

We all joke about mock drafts from pundits, but honestly if we would have just followed the consensus big board the last 3 years we’d be so much better off.

Pathetic when our GM can’t do better than the media.

 

[isaacjunk]

The way to draft is to take the surest thing with every pick. It’s really not complicated. You stack up good players until you have a good team. If you find yourself with 40 good players and no stars, or a hole at an important position, you trade future picks or spend money to fill the gaps. Or better yet, you sign quality vets on the cheap who want to join a good team where they can fill a hole and help contribute to a contender.

What you can’t do is fix a roster with 40 bad players by hitting on a handful of picks or spending big money to fill a handful of holes. It doesn’t work. Your good players look bad because they’re stretched too thin trying to compensate for bad players, and your bad players look bad because they’re bad.

It's tough to say that though. Was Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson a sure pick? And for years Grier did go for floor over ceiling...Tunsil, Wilkins, Minkah were all considered 'safe' picks. OTOH, Charles Harris was a boom/bust pick.

I actually applaud Grier for going upside over floor for some of the top picks...you need blue chip stars to anchor your team, way easier to fill in the rest of your team when you have the core in place.

If anything I would say Grier should've been more aggresive in trading up for a top LT rather than settling for AJ. We used so many picks to trade up in the 2nd and 3rd rounds...that same ammo probably could've gotten us a top tackle. how much better would everything look if we simply had Wirfs instead? Wouldn't have needed to trade up for Eichenberg either.

This various of course by year and position but I think in the top 10 say, depending on position, you should have little doubt you have a blue chipper--ceiling and floor need to be very high. Rest of round 1 it's kind of debatable how much risk you should take. As you go down the draft ladder I think you have to shift more to upside over floor. In rounds 3-7 super unlikely to find both....and the biggest value in any player is finding an above-average starter for cheap rookie money on his rookie deal.

 

[orpheus]

It's tough to say that though. Was Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson a sure pick? And for years Grier did go for floor over ceiling...Tunsil, Wilkins, Minkah were all considered 'safe' picks. OTOH, Charles Harris was a boom/bust pick.

I actually applaud Grier for going upside over floor for some of the top picks...you need blue chip stars to anchor your team, way easier to fill in the rest of your team when you have the core in place.

If anything I would say Grier should've been more aggresive in trading up for a top LT rather than settling for AJ. We used so many picks to trade up in the 2nd and 3rd rounds...that same ammo probably could've gotten us a top tackle. how much better would everything look if we simply had Wirfs instead? Wouldn't have needed to trade up for Eichenberg either.

This various of course by year and position but I think in the top 10 say, depending on position, you should have little doubt you have a blue chipper--ceiling and floor need to be very high. Rest of round 1 it's kind of debatable how much risk you should take. As you go down the draft ladder I think you have to shift more to upside over floor. In rounds 3-7 super unlikely to find both....and the biggest value in any player is finding an above-average starter for cheap rookie money on his rookie deal.

Well, he drafted Tua who was supposed to be high floor and low ceiling at #5 and now it's clear his floor and ceiling are low.

 

[Etuoo33]

Damn, just think, I coulda been a paper tiger GM too. It's almost like watching Texas Hold'em on TV. I could have been a millionaire if I could have done it that way (had my cake and ate it too). Hindsight is 100% accurate, except, it ain't... I hope some of our posters are updating there resume's for the GM job. LOL

 

[FanMarino]

No offence but im done listening or reading posts from East opposition fans on here. It's a pointless exercise and to be honest my own team has sucked the life out of me already.

 

[Marino2.0]

It's tough to say that though. Was Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson a sure pick? And for years Grier did go for floor over ceiling...Tunsil, Wilkins, Minkah were all considered 'safe' picks. OTOH, Charles Harris was a boom/bust pick.

I actually applaud Grier for going upside over floor for some of the top picks...you need blue chip stars to anchor your team, way easier to fill in the rest of your team when you have the core in place.

If anything I would say Grier should've been more aggresive in trading up for a top LT rather than settling for AJ. We used so many picks to trade up in the 2nd and 3rd rounds...that same ammo probably could've gotten us a top tackle. how much better would everything look if we simply had Wirfs instead? Wouldn't have needed to trade up for Eichenberg either.

This various of course by year and position but I think in the top 10 say, depending on position, you should have little doubt you have a blue chipper--ceiling and floor need to be very high. Rest of round 1 it's kind of debatable how much risk you should take. As you go down the draft ladder I think you have to shift more to upside over floor. In rounds 3-7 super unlikely to find both....and the biggest value in any player is finding an above-average starter for cheap rookie money on his rookie deal.

Dude, Tunsil and Minkah are Pro Bowlers. Wilkins is leading the NFL in defensive stops for interior defensive linemen. Charles Harris is barely hanging on to an NFL roster spot. You’re proving my point.