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Just a starting point as I get anxious for what's to come in the next two months. Here's what I got so far:


Free Agent Signings:

Jason Pinnock, S
Tommy Tremble, TE
Jarran Reed, DT
Tre'Davious White, DB
Taylor Heinicke, QB
Noah Brown, WR
Isaiah Wynn, OL
Joe Noteboom, OL
Calaias Campbell, DT
Tyrel Dodson, LB

Draft:
  • Malaki Starks (S, Georgia)
  • Tre Harris (WR, Ole Miss)
  • Jared Wilson (OG, Georgia)
  • Danny Stutsman (LB, Oklahoma)
  • Jalen Rivers (OG, Miami)
  • CJ West (DT, Bowling Green)
  • Quincy Riley (DB, Louisville)
  • Ja’Quinden Jackson (RB, Utah)
  • Zeek Biggers (DT, Georgia Tech)
  • Hunter Wohler (S, Wisconsin)
Roster:

QB: Tua, Heinicke
RB: Achane, Wright, Jackson
FB: Ingold
TE: Smith, Tremble, Hill
WR: Hill, Waddle, Harris, Washington, Brown, Taj Washington
OL: Paul, Jackson, Brewer, Wynn, Wilson, Rivers, Noteboom, Meyer, Hayes

DT: Seiler, Reed, Campbell, West, Biggers
Edge: Chubb, Phillips, Robinson, Ogbah, Kamara, Goode
LB: Brooks, Dodson, Stutsman, Tindall
DB: Ramsey, White, Smith, Kohou, Riley, Duck, Isaiah Johnson
S: Starks, Pinnock, McMorris, Wohler, Maitre
K: Sanders
P: Bailey
LS: Ferguson


Some thoughts:

Get a capable gunslinger to back up Tua
Jackson is a big power back with great speed
Pinnock and Starks is a formidable safety duo
Get a true X receiver to push Waddle to slot potentially, also get another big wr in Brown in FA
Tremble becomes the move TE that is an elite blocker, Hill might actually be better on the line.
mix of affordable vets and mid round draft picks on the OL to have a competition in TC for starters
DT's are being rotated so we get some run stuffers with upside, and rotate them with proven vets
Get a solid #2 corner in White, love Quincy Riley as a ballhawking specialist. Cam Smith needs to show out this year
Dodson and Brooks was a solid pairing, adding Stutsman will bolster that room as a blitzer and high IQ player
 
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NoblePhin said:
Just a starting point as I get anxious for what's to come in the next two months. Here's what I got so far:


Free Agent Signings:

Jason Pinnock, S
Tommy Tremble, TE
Jarran Reed, DT
Taylor Heinicke, QB
Noah Brown, WR
Isaiah Wynn, OL
Joe Noteboom, OL
Calaias Campbell, DT
Tyrel Dodson, LB
Draft:
  • Malaki Starks (S, Georgia)
  • Tre Harris (WR, Ole Miss)
  • Jared Wilson (OG, Georgia)
  • Danny Stutsman (LB, Oklahoma)
  • Jalen Rivers (OG, Miami)
  • CJ West (DT, Bowling Green)
  • Quincy Riley (DB, Louisville)
  • Ja’Quinden Jackson (RB, Utah)
  • Zeek Biggers (DT, Georgia Tech)
  • Hunter Wohler (S, Wisconsin)
Roster:

QB: Tua, Heinicke
RB: Achane, Wright, Jackson
FB: Ingold
TE: Smith, Tremble, Hill
WR: Hill, Waddle, Harris, Washington, Brown, Taj Washington
OL: Paul, Jackson, Brewer, Wynn, Wilson, Rivers, Noteboom, Meyer, Hayes

DT: Seiler, Reed, Campbell, West, Biggers
Edge: Chubb, Phillips, Robinson, Ogbah, Kamara, Goode
LB: Brooks, Dodson, Stutsman, Tindall
DB: Ramsey, Smith, Kohou, Riley, Duck, Isaiah Johnson
S: Starks, Pinnock, McMorris, Wohler, Maitre
K: Sanders
P: Bailey
LS: Ferguson
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I don't think we could be further apart on how to rebuild this roster 😆

Nice read tho.
 
QB: Zach Wilson or Jameis Winston

RB : Martinez or Skattebo

TE : A cheap FA that can block and draft one late to fill the group

Tackles : Spend a 4th on KU Logan Brown

Gaurd - Sign Fries, Zeitler, Becton or Sherrif - Draft Banks or Membau at #13 and another one in round 5-7

DT - best one on the board in the 2nd round

Safties - use a 3rd to get one and sign another one

DB take 2 during the draft, one in the 3rd and one late

DE - Beg Campbell to come back

We do that and we have a chance to win a playoff game next year.
 
MARINO1384 said:
You either have to be Chris Grier himself or a very close relative with the way your willing to go into the season putting almost 0 resources into the oline again
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In this hypothetical I drafted two guards and signed two swing tackles. I believe in Paul, Jackson and Brewer
 
NoblePhin said:
In this hypothetical I drafted two guards and signed two swing tackles. I believe in Paul, Jackson and Brewer
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Yeah man there’s no scenario where Miami should go into next year with two starting rookies at guard especially pretty much 4th and 5th rounders as your using comp picks on both which are the last few in the rounds.

Miami needs to sign one maybe even two vet guards on top of probably using a top 3 pick on oline.

CK mentioned a solid one that might be on the cheaper side in Evan Brown at LG who’s a good scheme fit and probably only around 3 million a year. If they can do him and take a flyer on James Daniels while resigning Wynn I’ll be good with that without oline being a major concern in the draft. All 3 should cost them around 12-14 million combined per year and atleast gives us some vet experience and a little depth if we add a 3rd or 4th rounder in the mix.

I like Paul but he’s still raw, sticking another rookie is calling for a disaster. I’m less worried about a rookie at RG between brewer and Jackson assuming Jackson can stay healthy.

In an ideal world Lamm returns for one more year as well at swing although dude probably wants a raise as he’s been pretty much a starter on backup money since our line can’t stay healthy.
 
MARINO1384 said:
Yeah man there’s no scenario where Miami should go into next year with two starting rookies at guard especially pretty much 4th and 5th rounders as your using comp picks on both which are the last few in the rounds.

Miami needs to sign one maybe even two vet guards on top of probably using a top 3 pick on oline.

CK mentioned a solid one that might be on the cheaper side in Evan Brown at LG who’s a good scheme fit and probably only around 3 million a year. If they can do him and take a flyer on James Daniels while resigning Wynn I’ll be good with that without oline being a major concern in the draft. All 3 should cost them around 12-14 million combined per year and atleast gives us some vet experience and a little depth if we add a 3rd or 4th rounder in the mix.

I like Paul but he’s still raw, sticking another rookie is calling for a disaster. I’m less worried about a rookie at RG between brewer and Jackson assuming Jackson can stay healthy.

In an ideal world Lamm returns for one more year as well at swing although dude probably wants a raise as he’s been pretty much a starter on backup money since our line can’t stay healthy.
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I also wouldn't start the two drafted guards, I could see Wynn and Wilson starting in this case, with Rivers being the backup along with Noteboom. Paul-Wynn-Brewer-Wilson-Jackson. Paul is going into year two so he's not raw anymore, and he's only going to get better-faster-stronger. Wilson just posted the second highest RAS score for a lineman of all time. Isn't James Daniels coming off an achilles tear? With how we want to have lineman that move, not sure that's a good play. Agree that RG would be the best spot to put a rookie though. Some of the lineman in the later rounds look pretty interesting. Rivers looked really good at the Senior Bowl, also Miles Frazier and Luke Kandra look like fits.
 
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I also wouldn't start the two drafted guards, I could see Wynn and Wilson starting in this case, with Rivers being the backup along with Noteboom. Paul-Wynn-Brewer-Wilson-Jackson. Paul is going into year two so he's not raw anymore, and he's only going to get better-faster-stronger. Wilson just posted the second highest RAS score for a lineman of all time. Isn't James Daniels coming off an achilles tear? With how we want to have lineman that move, not sure that's a good play. Agree that RG would be the best spot to put a rookie though. Some of the lineman in the later rounds look pretty interesting. Rivers looked really good at the Senior Bowl, also Miles Frazier and Luke Kandra look like fits.
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You sure are putting a lot of faith in a guy that took over a year to come back from a quad injury. I wouldn’t pencil in Wynn for anything but a spot starter.
 
NoblePhin said:
I also wouldn't start the two drafted guards, I could see Wynn and Wilson starting in this case, with Rivers being the backup along with Noteboom. Paul-Wynn-Brewer-Wilson-Jackson. Paul is going into year two so he's not raw anymore, and he's only going to get better-faster-stronger. Wilson just posted the second highest RAS score for a lineman of all time. Isn't James Daniels coming off an achilles tear? With how we want to have lineman that move, not sure that's a good play. Agree that RG would be the best spot to put a rookie though. Some of the lineman in the later rounds look pretty interesting. Rivers looked really good at the Senior Bowl, also Miles Frazier and Luke Kandra look like fits.
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Wilson is strictly a center in the league, we already have Brewer and we have Andrew Meyer as a development prospect. He should go round 2 and there are much better fits at G we can get over him imo .
 
NoblePhin said:
I also wouldn't start the two drafted guards, I could see Wynn and Wilson starting in this case, with Rivers being the backup along with Noteboom. Paul-Wynn-Brewer-Wilson-Jackson. Paul is going into year two so he's not raw anymore, and he's only going to get better-faster-stronger. Wilson just posted the second highest RAS score for a lineman of all time. Isn't James Daniels coming off an achilles tear? With how we want to have lineman that move, not sure that's a good play. Agree that RG would be the best spot to put a rookie though. Some of the lineman in the later rounds look pretty interesting. Rivers looked really good at the Senior Bowl, also Miles Frazier and Luke Kandra look like fits.
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Whats that saying? Something like the definition of insanity is doing something over and over and expecting different results.

Yeah that’s counting on Wynn to be the starter after two straight years of him playing like less than 6 games a year.

Paul is still very much raw, playing 6-7 games doesn’t change that as the tape was all over the place, showed great potential at times and other times it wasn’t good. I pray he comes in playing like a 6 year above average player but we have no idea if that’ll be true. Hes still a very big unknown.

RAS is meaningless and is no indication of how he’ll turn out. I just posted in another thread Nick Boltons like 4.84 RAS score and how Zach Thomas was smaller and way worse in every category, his RAS score would of been like a 0.5, Jarvis Landry in fact had a 0.27 RAS score. I like the scheme fit but he played less than 1k college snaps and you’re asking a position change on top of that, he’s not something that should be penciled into a starting role. Great development guy for 2-3 years from now.

Yes Daniels is coming off an Achilles but he had plenty of athleticism to give. He’s a near elite level linemen who’d get 12-14 million in an open market prior to injury. If you can get him in a 1-2 year 6 or so million a year it’s worth the risk.
 
Tough crowd this morning.......

The Taylor Heinicki move is interesting...he definitely can chuck it all over the field. Do you think he can handle the quick release offense we run? I see him more as a sit in the pocket kind of guy

My instincts tell me our best case scenario is a OG in free agency and a drafted one starting in 2025. But based on availability and $$ that could definitely change

Nice post OP!
 
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