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Gase Should Be Fired Now. Change My Mind.

If I were a billionaire like Ross I would search the world over until I found a top notch staff at every position and would pay them top dollar. I would not have someone like TannenBUM making decisions.
 
Sorry, you wanted a reason why he should stay. The entertainment value of him going back and forth with guys like Omar and Armando. Actually I don't really get too entertained by that but some people do. I just want to see the team win a damn Super Bowl. The two times that they did were before I was born. Been waiting way too long to see them even compete for a chance to go to a Super Bowl. I think I failed you but really it is hard to convince you of something that I am not even feeling myself.
 
E30M3 said:
IMO

This week, no.
When the Dolphins have been mathematically eliminated from playoffs? Yes. Then, do the following:

1. Remove Matt Burke from defensive coordinator. Have his box packed, escort him from the building and do not say goodbye.
2. Elevate Rizzi to interim head coach for the remainder of the season, giving him Defensive Coordinator calls. He can select who he wants for special teams coordinator or continue that role as well.
3. Give offensive coordinator calls to the current OC for the remainder of the season. Not like it matters.
4. Use remainder of 2018 and offseason to evaluate the team moving forward in regards to the QB position, drafting, scouting, conditioning and try to find a coach who's needs you can meet ($$$). I will say if Rizzi performs well, perhaps keep him in mind, but definitely keep him on the team, perhaps elevate to DC, otherwise let the new HC select their O and D coordinators. Hopefully Tannehill can perform well the remainder of the season so we could possibly trade for a high 2020 draft pick.
5. Remove Tannenbaum from his position and replace with someone more knowledgeable (I admit I dont know many off hand, im sure they are out there).
6. If no trade options, retain Tannehill for 2019, draft OLine and DLine players. If Tannehill traded, use Fales and Falk for 2019. Tannehill can still provide valuable advice to the younger QB's.
7. Compete as much as possible under new coach in the 2019 season. Analyze who stays and who goes for 2020.

2019 is shot already for the Dolphins. There are gaping holes on offense, defense, QB, everywhere. Best bet is to not necessarily tank, but to remove the things that hinder competition and shoot for the 2020 draft as a leapboard for the next 5-10 years.
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Now for what will actually happen...

1. Matt Burke will be the sacrifice. He will be fired and replaced with a “name” DC

2. The injury excuse will save everyone in the front office. No changes at the top

3. Gase will agree to relinquish playcalling duties in 2019

4. Tannehill will agree to a restructured deal to make it possible for the team to keep him at a more reasonable salary in 2019

5. A QB will be drafted in the mid-rounds to be “groomed”

...

None of this will actually solve anything, the team will struggle in similar ways in 2019 culminating with the (hopefully) the removal of Gase, Tannenbaum, Grier and the hiring of an FO and coaching staff which share the same vision and draft a franchise QB in 2020
 
I'd argue that the team and organization was in a better place and position before Gase arrived. He took a cupcake schedule his first year, rode 200 yard games by Ajayi's legs, Tannehill's arm, missed field goals by other teams, and we miraculously made the playoffs. This was with all of Philbin's players and some holdover coaches (most notably Rizzi).

What has he done since then? Ran grown men out of the building because he's unable to cope and coach strong personalities that show a spark or pulse of emotion for the game of football.

What has he brought in? Yes men, and soft patsies that will align with his vision for...mediocrity. His offensive philosophy and schemes are just as shitty as his playcalling and football sense.

I'd maintain that Adam Gase's greatest claim to fame in his tenure with this organization was cutting ties with Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner. This was after the fact that the fan base and media was howling and questioning why these players were still with the team and actually playing in games. He'll only grudgingly do what's best for the team and organization when the heat is threatening his delicate sensibilities.

I can't stand the pompous muppet. It's a tragedy what he has done in his short tenure here. And you know what? Once this laughable, phony guru is out of the building he will leave us in much WORSE shape than when he arrived.

This was like a science experiment gone awry.
 
Laser13 said:
I'd argue that the team and organization was in a better place and position before Gase arrived. He took a cupcake schedule his first year, rode 200 yard games by Ajayi's legs, Tannehill's arm, missed field goals by other teams, and we miraculously made the playoffs. This was with all of Philbin's players and some holdover coaches (most notably Rizzi).

What has he done since then? Ran grown men out of the building because he's unable to cope and coach strong personalities that show a spark or pulse of emotion for the game of football.

What has he brought in? Yes men, and soft patsies that will align with his vision for...mediocrity. His offensive philosophy and schemes are just as ****ty as his playcalling and football sense.

I'd maintain that Adam Gase's greatest claim to fame in his tenure with this organization was cutting ties with Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner. This was after the fact that the fan base and media was howling and questioning why these players were still with the team and actually playing in games. He'll only grudgingly do what's best for the team and organization when the heat is threatening his delicate sensibilities.

I can't stand the pompous muppet. It's a tragedy what he has done in his short tenure here. And you know what? Once this laughable, phony guru is out of the building he will leave us in much WORSE shape than when he arrived.

This was like a science experiment gone awry.
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Post of the year canidate.
 
Belichick pre Brady

6-10
7-9
7-9
11-5
5-11
5-11

After that, Brady, and Belichick is the god among gods of coach’s. Would be interesting to see him without Brady for good, not a few games all hands on deck.

People need to stop wanting to blow everything up every 2-3 years or we will continue this Groundhog Day nightmare.

We need a QB who can elevate the team and win on his shoulders, until then no coach is going to get us past the 6-10 / 10-6 cycle.
 
Viggen said:
Belichick pre Brady

6-10
7-9
7-9
11-5
5-11
5-11

After that, Brady, and Belichick is the god among gods of coach’s. Would be interesting to see him without Brady for good, not a few games all hands on deck.

People need to stop wanting to blow everything up every 2-3 years or we will continue this Groundhog Day nightmare.

We need a QB who can elevate the team and win on his shoulders, until then no coach is going to get us past the 6-10 / 10-6 cycle.
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Belichick pre Brady had a positive point differential while Gase has a -189 point differential. Belichick also was a super bowl champion as a coordinator. Excluding the three years with Peyton, Gase has only been a coach on a winning team 1 year out of 12.
 
Laser13 said:
I'd argue that the team and organization was in a better place and position before Gase arrived. He took a cupcake schedule his first year, rode 200 yard games by Ajayi's legs, Tannehill's arm, missed field goals by other teams, and we miraculously made the playoffs. This was with all of Philbin's players and some holdover coaches (most notably Rizzi).

What has he done since then? Ran grown men out of the building because he's unable to cope and coach strong personalities that show a spark or pulse of emotion for the game of football.

What has he brought in? Yes men, and soft patsies that will align with his vision for...mediocrity. His offensive philosophy and schemes are just as ****ty as his playcalling and football sense.

I'd maintain that Adam Gase's greatest claim to fame in his tenure with this organization was cutting ties with Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner. This was after the fact that the fan base and media was howling and questioning why these players were still with the team and actually playing in games. He'll only grudgingly do what's best for the team and organization when the heat is threatening his delicate sensibilities.

I can't stand the pompous muppet. It's a tragedy what he has done in his short tenure here. And you know what? Once this laughable, phony guru is out of the building he will leave us in much WORSE shape than when he arrived.

This was like a science experiment gone awry.
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His best move was clearly hiring a coke head offensive line coach. At least he has that going for him.
 
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