getting Ricky back...

[inExile]

There’s a huge difference between Williams and Brown --- Ricky is a PROVEN big-time NFL talent and Brown has yet to make his first NFL carry. And just for just record, there have been MORE 1st round RB “busts†than “super-stars,†a LOT MORE!

As far as Ricky’s behavior, I think some of you need to cut the dude some slack. The NFL is NOT life and death, and like it or not, people have done far worse things than “retire†for obvious personal reasons (e.g., I personally feel someone who beats the crap out of his wife is a far offensive than smoking some grass).


IMO, if I was Saban, I would definitely pursue Ricky and get him back on the team if at all possible. Having two stud RB’s is the type of “problem†you want.


Last, based on the OL of last year, Ricky may be a hell of a lot smarter than most of you give him credit for. If he was in uniform last year he’d probably be crippled from running behind a pathetic group who couldn’t block their way out of a paper bag.

 

[knight6jb]

Great post man, I agree completely!

 

[FemaleFinFan]

I don't care that Ricky retired to smoke pot, sounds like a good idea at times. Its the timing of which he did it. He retired a week before camp. Had he retired at the end of the season, then I would have wished him well and never had a bad word to say about him. For me timing was everything. Just the timing, not the action...

 

[FinsAreLife]

nice post i agree and disagree, even tho ricky has been out for just a year, he lost weight and who knows if he still has as much of what he had, but i do agree we need to cut him a little slackand i dont think he declined that much form last year nice post

 

[GreenMonster]

I don't care that Ricky retired to smoke pot, sounds like a good idea at times. Its the timing of which he did it. He retired a week before camp. Had he retired at the end of the season, then I would have wished him well and never had a bad word to say about him. For me timing was everything. Just the timing, not the action...

Me too if, he said this right after the season ended last year we could have drafted a back and be done with it. In hindsight one bad season for the Dolphins could lead to bigger and greater things.. I love this years team without Ricky and he comes back and plays well, having 2 pot. ALL PRO RB's makes me very happy..

 

[Trackstar]

I don't care that Ricky retired to smoke pot, sounds like a good idea at times. Its the timing of which he did it. He retired a week before camp. Had he retired at the end of the season, then I would have wished him well and never had a bad word to say about him. For me timing was everything. Just the timing, not the action...

That's exactly how I feel. I respected his decision, I just did not like how he left us high and dry.

 

[NYinBostonFin]

Good post. I do agree with FemFinFan about the timing, but everthing else is dead on.

 

[ohall]

I don't care that Ricky retired to smoke pot, sounds like a good idea at times. Its the timing of which he did it. He retired a week before camp. Had he retired at the end of the season, then I would have wished him well and never had a bad word to say about him. For me timing was everything. Just the timing, not the action...

:roflmao:

 

[inExile]

The timing of Ricky leaving...

Yes, I definitely agree with you guys that the timing of Ricky’s decision was horrible for the team --- no debate there at all.

However, IMO, the people in charge of the team, namely Wanny and Spielman, should have had a better “feel†for what there STAR PLAYER was up to. I mean when you’re basing your entire future on having a big-time running game you BETTER make damn sure Ricky is “stable†and ready to carry the load for another 350+ carries. Speaking of that, Wanny just about ran the guy to death for 2 years, and lets face it --- no one can stand up to that kind of abuse year after year. This is all the more reason the OL disaster was absolutely unforgivable in my eyes. So before we accuse Ricky of letting the team down, there are others bearing MORE RESPONSIBILTY, and they can’t hide behind smoking grass.

I for one think it’s a joke that Spielman is still involved with the team. His track record is spotty at best, and for the Dolphins to achieve in leaps and bounds he needs to go. The sooner Saban cuts him loose the better. Bottom line, if the Dolphins are gong to climb back on top we need to have a top notch organization, and the personnel department needs to be on top of ALL ASPECTS of personnel, including players named Ricky or whoever.

 

[grendel]

Femalefinsfan has a good point, the only problem I had with him is the timing. But unlike most of the anti-rickys, I don't think he is to blame for the losing season. Wanspiel took an average line that could hold its own, and made it into a laughing stock. RW would have pernamently retired would two broken legs thanks to Wanny!

 

[Agua]

Don't in any way try to turn the damned thing around on anyone other than RW. As said by a previous poster in this thread, it's the god awful timing of the thing that's the problem. Had he just walked off in the sunset at the end of the season, even prior to the draft, it would have been one thing, but to wait until a week (or less) before TC, after any backs in FA were gone (George got snatched up a couple days prior to RW's quitting), and just hang us out to dry ... THAT's the problem.

 

[Agua]

Femalefinsfan has a good point, the only problem I had with him is the timing. But unlike most of the anti-rickys, I don't think he is to blame for the losing season. Wanspiel took an average line that could hold its own, and made it into a laughing stock. RW would have pernamently retired would two broken legs thanks to Wanny!

Complete revisionist history. That bunch was overage, overpaid, and underperforming. It's no coincidence that none of those guys were not picked up by anyone after cut. Also, we were something like 17 mil over the cap going into that.

 

[GRYPHONK]

Ricky Williams quit, yes he did. He had awful timing. Yes this is true.

But how is it his fault that our whole offensive gameplan was centered around one guy on offense.? Your team should be set to if someone goes down you have other people capable or you adjust.

It's not his fault lived and died by Ricky.

Had Chambers, Feeley, McMichaels, Surtain, or Taylor quit and not Williams, We would have had a better season. Not one of those guys were as important or centered around as much as Williams.

 

[inExile]

Ricky Williams quit, yes he did. He had awful timing. Yes this is true.

But how is it his fault that our whole offensive gameplan was centered around one guy on offense.? Your team should be set to if someone goes down you have other people capable or you adjust.

It's not his fault lived and died by Ricky.

Had Chambers, Feeley, McMichaels, Surtain, or Taylor quit and not Williams, We would have had a better season. Not one of those guys were as important or centered around as much as Williams.

I have to disagree with you a little on this one. RW was (and may still be) a real BIG-TIME player --- the type of guy YOU DO BUILD a team around. RW was BY FAR the "STAR" player for the Dolphins.

As far as last season --- lets be real, even with RW, the team was on the way down with that OL joke and crap QB play.


Bottom line, bad coaching decisions and bad personnel moves and draft blunders catch up to you real soon.

 

[GRYPHONK]

I have to disagree with you a little on this one. RW was (and may still be) a real BIG-TIME player --- the type of guy YOU DO BUILD a team around. RW was BY FAR the "STAR" player for the Dolphins.

As far as last season --- lets be real, even with RW, the team was on the way down with that OL joke and crap QB play.


Bottom line, bad coaching decisions and bad personnel moves and draft blunders catch up to you real soon.

Exactly, just seems there always needs to be a scapegoat. I don't think you are really disagreeing with me just expanding more.

Philly has TO. If they lost him they still had a game plan and talent to do fine without him.
If Indy lost James or Harrisson, they would still be ok and have a gameplan.
Pitt lost Burress and they did fine.

All I am saying is that you can't base your whole offensive schem on one player. Injuries happen to frequent for that.

We have always had scapegoats.
Wanny and Fiedler
Now Williams for our season last year