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Ginn has scored 14pts this year-Carroll has given up 14pts

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Ted Ginn and Nolan Carroll were basically traded for each other, we received a 5th round pick from SF and used it on Carroll, so basically we traded a special team player for a special team player, so far this year ginn has helped the 49ers win a game and score two TD's while carroll has contributed to us losing two games while giving up two TD's. So I know everybody on here wanted Ginn gone because he didn't turn into a #1 receiver and always ran out of bounds avoiding hits, but the question I pose is was it worth it? would you rather have a guy who can score on special teams and is a dangerous KR/PR and can change field position for you, change the scoreboard in a positive way for you, run reverses and occasionally catch a deep ball, or would you rather have a guy who maybe will get a tackle on special teams once in a while and get smoked in coverage and affect the board negatively and has no value on this team, teams are scoring 35-40pts a game now and u need guys that can help u put points on the board not guys that get burned in coverage and give up points, it's too bad the FO doesn't understand that logic yet, either way this was a bad trade idc what anybody says.
 
i was all in favor of keeping ginn as a special teams player, doesnt surprise me though, sparano and ireland never make correct decision. Just like the benny sapp release, the only guy to give us our only interception this year we released and the ones who keeps giving up touchdowns nolan carroll is still on the team, carroll should have been cut already, plays soft, doesnt play the ball, worst corner i have ever seen on this fins roster.
 
yea another thread because I sit back and watch this team struggle to put points on the board and watch highlights of ginn win a game for the 49ers like he did w us beating the jets, we could of used those damn 14pts, all while we watch the guy we traded him for get smoked and give up two TD's and has no business being on and NFL football field, so this is what we traded ginn for? hell if ure gonna trade the guy make it count, this front office is clueless!
 
Ginn was run out of town more by the fans and media than the FO.......now they are clueless and the fans would have never wanted him gone.

Especially you!
 
Neither Ginn nor Carroll belong in a Dolphin uniform.
 
Just because Carroll sucks it doesn't justify your argument to keep Ginn. Ginn sucked as well, he has no heart and you're still harping on his one big day. Last Sunday they didn't even put him on kickoff returns and he had 4 punt returns for 11 yards...with a long of 20 which means is other 3 returns netted him - 9 yards.
 
datruth55 said:
Just because Carroll sucks it doesn't justify your argument to keep Ginn. Ginn sucked as well, he has no heart and you're still harping on his one big day. Last Sunday they didn't even put him on kickoff returns and he had 4 punt returns for 11 yards...with a long of 20 which means is other 3 returns netted him - 9 yards.
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And Miami has had zero return TD's since he left. In fact I'd argue we've hardly seen decent returns. I guess you have 2 options with you KR/PR, consistent good field position or occasionally bust one for a TD. We have neither, Ginn would occasionally bust one.
 
MadDog 88 said:
Neither Ginn nor Carroll belong in a Dolphin uniform.
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from what i hear, ted ginns "hands" has shown a ton of improvement in san francisco, again, this all leads to head tony sparano not being a good head coach, why is it ted ginn is all the sudden turning into a target in sf under jim harbaugh?
 
This thread is ridiculous. Ginn was run out of town by the same people that are praising him now. He scored two touchdowns on returns for Miami as well against the jets, and that did not stop the majority of the people from putting their foot in his behind out the door. Enough already. The Dolphins suck right now. Either watch them or don't. Football watching is not a matter of life and death.
 
People were bitching that they wanted Ginn off this team...now that he's somewhat contributing to another team, they want him back??? Fickleness at its greatest!
 
MarshallFin1 said:
i was all in favor of keeping ginn as a special teams player, doesnt surprise me though, sparano and ireland never make correct decision. Just like the benny sapp release, the only guy to give us our only interception this year we released and the ones who keeps giving up touchdowns nolan carroll is still on the team, carroll should have been cut already, plays soft, doesnt play the ball, worst corner i have ever seen on this fins roster.
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Yea let's take a roster spot just for a guy who MAY return a kick or two a year.
 
thesparanos13 said:
Ted Ginn and Nolan Carroll were basically traded for each other, we received a 5th round pick from SF and used it on Carroll, so basically we traded a special team player for a special team player, so far this year ginn has helped the 49ers win a game and score two TD's while carroll has contributed to us losing two games while giving up two TD's. So I know everybody on here wanted Ginn gone because he didn't turn into a #1 receiver and always ran out of bounds avoiding hits, but the question I pose is was it worth it? would you rather have a guy who can score on special teams and is a dangerous KR/PR and can change field position for you, change the scoreboard in a positive way for you, run reverses and occasionally catch a deep ball, or would you rather have a guy who maybe will get a tackle on special teams once in a while and get smoked in coverage and affect the board negatively and has no value on this team, teams are scoring 35-40pts a game now and u need guys that can help u put points on the board not guys that get burned in coverage and give up points, it's too bad the FO doesn't understand that logic yet, either way this was a bad trade idc what anybody says.
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Ginn has scored 12 points actually
 
Letting go of Ginn was moronic. Period. All summer Ireland talks of speed and we let one of the fastest burners go. No, he wasn't the greatest WR, but his returns are more than reason enough to keep him. For those who say Ginn is trash, guess you'd rather have Gates huh? A slower, lamer version of Ginn.
 
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