rookieholdout
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grendel said:
i doubt 5 years is half a qbs pro life.
Give Feeley a Shot
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i doubt 5 years is half a qbs pro life.
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Comparing Brees and Feeley is alright I guess, but the major difference is that Brees is a legit first round-second round talent, Feeley is marginally talented at best. The only questions about Brees were his size coming out of college. If he was 6'4 he'd have been a top 10 pick. Feeley was a second day pick and a third stringer on Philly's team. Big difference in talent. Id suffer through a few bad years to give a legit talent a shot. Feeley was a mistake and he has no major upside. Smith is going to be a lot better of a pro than Feeley.
Besides what would be the bad side to it if Feeley plays great? Then we have a 21 year old playing backup to a 29 year old starter for a few years. Yes, the salary cap issues are there but you can work around contracts if youre smart. If Feeley doesnt pan out then Smith is waiting in the wings. Smith played a lot of shotgun offense at Utah he probaly needs 2 years to learn anyway. Its not a bad situation for us to be in. Having 2 good Qb's would be lightyears better than the Fielder/Lucas/bum debacle we've suffered through.
Besides what would be the bad side to it if Feeley plays great? Then we have a 21 year old playing backup to a 29 year old starter for a few years. Yes, the salary cap issues are there but you can work around contracts if youre smart. If Feeley doesnt pan out then Smith is waiting in the wings. Smith played a lot of shotgun offense at Utah he probaly needs 2 years to learn anyway. Its not a bad situation for us to be in. Having 2 good Qb's would be lightyears better than the Fielder/Lucas/bum debacle we've suffered through.
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rookieholdout said:
The Bills with very average Qb play and a good running game, a great defense, and two very good wr's were only 9-7 and not a playoff team. Ricky Williams could not lead the team to the playoffs and he lead the NFL in rushing in 2002 I believe. Look at the Chargers as my model, they couldn't make the playoffs with a stud RB, but once Brees played very well they were a "contender," while Tomlinson is a better player, Brees is more crucial for there success.
marinotoclayton
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rookieholdout said:
Personally I don't see having brees and young Qb who was picked high in the draft a problem. They still can trade him away and still get something for Rivers. There are a lot of teams that may need a young Qb down the road. Kind of like us. We have 3 Qb's that haven't proven anything yet. Or rather change that to two Qb's since one of them is old and almost done with his career whats left of it.
texasPHINSfan
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on top of the fact you are beating a dead horse, have you taken the time to read any of the 100 other threads started on this? if you had, you would have seen many GREAT reasons TO draft a QB with our first pick...rookieholdout said:
the biggest being what if feeley busts? then we have no recourse and have to wait another year to get a project QB as a future franchiser. Getting a QB now would be a great opportunity to build a franchise QB. its an insurance policy. I'd rather have 2 great QBs than NO good ones.... If Feeley pans out, great, trade Smith away for a high draft pick or groom him another year under feeley, then trade feeley when his value is high. (or keep them both). if you DON'T draft QB and feeley tanks, what are you going to do then?
with the draft stacked at RB, it just makes too much sense to go QB with our first... and get a RB at a later round.
The bottom line is we can draft a QB and Feeley can STILL have his chance - after all the QB we draft probably wouldn't start on opening day anyway...
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Yeah, last year, Fiedler/Feeley reminded me of Woodstrock! I'm glad someone else sees that....grendel said:
But you know who came after Woodstrock...An omen or just wishful thinking?
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I don't see why everyone hates Feeley so much when he never had a chance to really show his talent. Kiper, Scouts, and NFL Network have mentioned that if Rodgers and Smith would have been drafted in last years QB class that they would have been taken 5th and 6th. That goes to show you the lack of talent that these two have, but everyone thinks they are "franchise QB's". Like I've mentioned in other posts, Feeley has just as much talent and potential as either of those two QB's. You give Feeley a good game plan, oline, running game and better coaching and he will perform. The only thing were missing now is the oline and running back, hopefully that will be fixed before preseason.
- NFL record for picks returned for TDs by opponentJohnDolphin73 said:
- 7 or 8 Ints thrown to LB's. If you cant read LB coverages at 28 you dont deserve to start.
- He doesnt make good decision with the ball
- He won because of the D in Philly; much the same reason as Jay had a winning record here. It was in spite of his play, not because of it.
In short, he s-cks. next question. :fire:
5.32 yards per attempt at age 28 hardly inspires confidence in great things ahead. If I remember correctly, that topped only Eli Manning and Mark Brunnell among QBs who played frequently. So that's one guy on the way up and another on the way out. Feeley was dead last among QBs who should be in their prime.
To be fair, Griese skyrocketed to something like 7.8 yards per attempt last year, after nothing close to that for us. So personnel/system played a part. But when I attended the Tennessee opener last year I saw a disturbing tendency for Feeley to dump off the short pass very soon, before downfield possibilities had been exhausted. I hate the short passing game. I've detailed that in other posts. It's destined to fail unless the offense is sophisticated and threatening enough, so that short tosses are taken on the run with room to roam since dangerous WRs have taken the secondary deep and you're dealing with RBs against LBs in open space.
My beef with Feeley is the same as when we traded for him; line drive happy. Those INTs to LBs are hardly coincidence. He doesn't have nearly the variety of pace and loft. It's like in tennis, where the guys with heavy topspin have so much more margin for error clearing the net. Feeley is the type who expects a low rocket to magically clear the netting yet land safely before the baseline.
Speilman.
To be fair, Griese skyrocketed to something like 7.8 yards per attempt last year, after nothing close to that for us. So personnel/system played a part. But when I attended the Tennessee opener last year I saw a disturbing tendency for Feeley to dump off the short pass very soon, before downfield possibilities had been exhausted. I hate the short passing game. I've detailed that in other posts. It's destined to fail unless the offense is sophisticated and threatening enough, so that short tosses are taken on the run with room to roam since dangerous WRs have taken the secondary deep and you're dealing with RBs against LBs in open space.
My beef with Feeley is the same as when we traded for him; line drive happy. Those INTs to LBs are hardly coincidence. He doesn't have nearly the variety of pace and loft. It's like in tennis, where the guys with heavy topspin have so much more margin for error clearing the net. Feeley is the type who expects a low rocket to magically clear the netting yet land safely before the baseline.
Speilman.