Grantland on the Tannehill deal

[Fin Thirteen]

The Dolphins have secured their quarterback of the near future. Now they just need to figure out if that future was worth locking up. Miami already had starting quarterback Ryan Tannehill signed through 2016, but on Monday it came to terms on a contract extension that could keep him in town through 2020 and pay him up to $96 million. The structure and real value of the contract, however, make it clear the Dolphins are still evaluating their young quarterback. In fact, the deal vaguely evokes a disastrous figure from a member of this organization’s recent past.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/miamis-gamble-what-does-tannehills-new-contract-mean/

 

[foozool13]

Great find and great read. The FO is putting in great work. Well played and a win for both sides.

 

[phins_4_ever]

The Dolphins have secured their quarterback of the near future. Now they just need to figure out if that future was worth locking up. Miami already had starting quarterback Ryan Tannehill signed through 2016, but on Monday it came to terms on a contract extension that could keep him in town through 2020 and pay him up to $96 million. The structure and real value of the contract, however, make it clear the Dolphins are still evaluating their young quarterback. In fact, the deal vaguely evokes a disastrous figure from a member of this organization’s recent past.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/miamis-gamble-what-does-tannehills-new-contract-mean/

Good article. But I have the feeling you will get a lot of thumbs down.

 

[Fins1971]

Nice article. Points out some of the stuff many on this board don't want to hear. But it is accurate.

 

[roy_miami]

It’s hard to imagine that it will fail as suddenly and destructively as Sanchez’s extension failed in New York,

Its unlikely now that we've completely rebuilt the WR corps and brought in Suh, but its still not that hard to imagine.

 

[hoops]

if you think about mark sanchez bill barnwell you need to think again

the only thing he said worth a hoot in there was the contract #s breakdown...dont sweat any of that mark sanchez crap...the guy even before the start of the 2014 season still pimped rg3 as a franchise qb

next.

 

[HarryBagpipe]

Its unlikely now that we've completely rebuilt the WR corps and brought in Suh, but its still not that hard to imagine.

If youre utterly delusional, agenda driven and without an objective bone in your body, sure its not hard to imagine.

 

[Vaark]

That was a fair and thoughtful article taking into account the upsides and areas of development, hopeful enough to realistically perceive Ryan as a perennial Top 10 Quarterback, or one settling into the middle of the pack. Praising the FO for an advantageous contract regardless of whether RT17 continues to improve or does not. He also makes a strong case that Sanchez at best was an illusion and does create some concern that Tannenbaum was the driving force of that train wreck and that history cold repeat itself. (Don't think it will but thats a valid concern). All and all a pretty even handed and reasoned analysis.

 

[hoops]

That was a fair and thoughtful article taking into account the upsides and areas of development, hopeful enough to realistically perceive Ryan as a perennial Top 10 Quarterback, or one settling into the middle of the pack. Praising the FO for an advantageous contract regardless of whether RT17 continues to improve or does not. He also makes a strong case that Sanchez at best was an illusion and does create some concern that Tannenbaum was the driving force of that train wreck and that history cold repeat itself. (Don't think it will but thats a valid concern). All and all a pretty even handed and reasoned analysis.

well when he says how he cant help but think of mark sanchez on the field at the same point and in regards to the potential fail of the contract in the next 2 years and "being stuck with it" he failed me

that's not happening...so don't sweat it...only way we could get stuck here would be career ending/threatening injury...not all the sudden turn into terrible qb

 

[Tureo]

He doesn't love Tannehill. He will be bashed and discredited.

 

[TheWalrus]

The Sanchez comparison is not a good one. Sanchez had "succeeded" despite not looking/being a particularly good quarterback.

Tannehill on the other hand hasn't succeeded (ie won) but he passes the eye test and is by every objective metric a better player.

If you're going to bet on one -- or more accurately are forced to bet; you don't have to gamble on great players who win or terrible players who lose -- bet on the latter.

 

[Canadi-Phin]

It was a good article. Pointed out things that many of us have our concerns about. I look at such a high level of short throws and a bad YPA should be pointed more towards the receiving core than at Tannehill. If guys are breaking more tackles even for a yard extra it puts him in the avg of the league. We all know we had one guy who truly broke or made people miss consistently and that was Landry. Wallace and Clay had a few plays but weren't consistent. I put a lot of that on the receivers with some blame going to ball placement by Ryan. I'm excited to see how this year goes with the new weapons and guys who hopefully can break more tackles.

 

[Twitches Brew]

It was a good article. Pointed out things that many of us have our concerns about. I look at such a high level of short throws and a bad YPA should be pointed more towards the receiving core than at Tannehill. If guys are breaking more tackles even for a yard extra it puts him in the avg of the league. We all know we had one guy who truly broke or made people miss consistently and that was Landry. Wallace and Clay had a few plays but weren't consistent. I put a lot of that on the receivers with some blame going to ball placement by Ryan. I'm excited to see how this year goes with the new weapons and guys who hopefully can break more tackles.

Tannehill has never been good in the ypa department, not even at Texas A&M. Fact is we're looking at five seasons of poor output for that measure. It's a legit concern.

It's a pretty good article. Most of the Sanchez comp stems from the presence of Tannenbaum...which is...not a great method to compare quarterbacks, though it makes semse for journalism I suppose. Barnwell knows his stuff, and I think he makes some decent points.

 

[Canadi-Phin]

Tannehill has never been good in the ypa department, not even at Texas A&M. Fact is we're looking at five seasons of poor output for that measure. It's a legit concern.

It's a pretty good article. Most of the Sanchez comp stems from the presence of Tannenbaum...which is...not a great method to compare quarterbacks, though it makes semse for journalism I suppose. Barnwell knows his stuff, and I think he makes some decent points.

Fair enough but I'm hoping with receivers who break tackles help create more YPA. I agree he's been pretty consistent. I wonder if that also had to do with Sherman's offense? Common denominator though is Ryan. Here's hoping that it improves. More splash plays would help tons.

 

[Fin Thirteen]

Fair enough but I'm hoping with receivers who break tackles help create more YPA. I agree he's been pretty consistent. I wonder if that also had to do with Sherman's offense? Common denominator though is Ryan. Here's hoping that it improves. More splash plays would help tons.

Our new receiving corps should help Tannehill out a little in upping his YPA. But as long as Tannehill remains a "take what's there" QB - who throws it at the receiver coming back rather than in front of a receiver heading downfield, YPA will always be on the low side for his overall ability. It's really my only reservation about the guy - albeit a big one. If he can begin to develop the ability to throw receivers open and into space, he'll be an unquestioned Top 10 QB in my view. Until then, his low YPA will keep him in the middle of the pack.

A better O-line would be huge for him - if we could give him that extra second processing time for him to find his confidence and touch for those sort of throws, it would accelerate his development exponentially. Without that extra second, you're asking him to cram more into less, which might be doable but seems unnecessarily hard.