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Green Bay Post Gazette: Talks Packers Coaching Situation

Me either, but I bet they poach a couple of Packers assistants.

Yep. A Mike McCarthy parting gift...a few assistants.

Brad Childress or Mike Sherman could be candidates for OC...just off the top of head.

I DO NOT want a first time DC. No way....I would pissed over that. Bowles the exceptions.
 
I think there is a solid chance we end up with Clements. Don't forget an OC in Green Bay doesn't really call the plays and coming to Miami would really allow him to prove what he can do as a play caller... Based on the competitive nature of coaches i would think that that alone would make Miami a appealing destination.
 
I think there is a solid chance we end up with Clements. Don't forget an OC in Green Bay doesn't really call the plays and coming to Miami would really allow him to prove what he can do as a play caller... Based on the competitive nature of coaches i would think that that alone would make Miami a appealing destination.

Unfortunately, teams can refuse to allow their assistant coaches to take jobs as assistants with other teams (even if it's a promotion). McCarthy has done this with Clements in the past.
 
I am not against Bowles being DC but only if Philbin wants it that way. I would hate to think the FO is saddling him with who THEY want in certain spots. If that is the case that would be bogus. Philbin should have FINAL say on who is on his coaching staff IMO.
 
If you are Tom Clements do you want to be the OC for a team where you do not call the plays or the OC for a team where you will call the plays. Further if he stays in Green Bay he may not get as much credit for their success compared to if he comes to Miami where if they do well he will get the Lions share of the credit. If I was him, I'd look to blaze a new trail.

And I selfishly I hope he does that, he's the main reason I'd be OK with the Philbin hire.
 
Unfortunately, teams can refuse to allow their assistant coaches to take jobs as assistants with other teams (even if it's a promotion). McCarthy has done this with Clements in the past.

I thought if it was a promotion a team cannot stop them from leaving. When did this change?
 
I thought if it was a promotion a team cannot stop them from leaving. When did this change?

To piggyback on Bill's point, here's an article that La Canfora posted at the end of 2009:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...-staffs-isnt-as-easy-for-teams-as-it-once-was

Among coaches and personnel people, it's been a topic of discussion for weeks, and while there is a perception among the general public about the relative ease with which a staff can be put together, and with which coaches and executives can move from one organization to another, the reality is that it's become increasingly difficult to assemble a desired staff for myriad reasons. It's also a reality that some teams will decide not to make changes to their staff at least in part based on the inability to land those candidates deemed better.

"No one's really that mobile," one longtime personnel executive said. "Everybody is pretty restricted."

Unless a coach already under contract is being interviewed for a head coaching job, or a personnel exec is being interviewed for a promotion to general manager that would involve final say on personnel, their existing team can block any meeting. Many out there think that only a lateral move can be blocked. That is not true on the coaching or personnel side.

Last offseason, for instance, the Redskins blocked special teams coach Danny Smith from interviewing for the same position with the Packers, and also blocked secondary coach Jerry Gray from interviewing for the defensive coordinator position with the Texans, which would have been an obvious promotion. The only reason the Browns were able to hire personnel executive George Kokinis from the Ravens is that he was promised final say on the roster in Cleveland, which he did not have in Baltimore (now, whether he actually got that authority over coach Eric Mangini in Cleveland is an entirely different matter).

Back in the day, it used to be you offered a promotion, you got your guy in town for an interview, and he got a deal done. That is no longer the case. Throw in the fact that the economy has been down, and, after the 2010 season there is no labor security -- the CBA expires and who knows what the next model will look like -- and thus some teams are hesitant to blow out existing staff only to bring in new ones with the possibility that there could be a work stoppage of some sort in 2011. None of that promotes a whole lot of movement.

There is also the matter of college coaches continuing to make higher salaries, and in many cases without having to work the kind of hours that are the norm in the NFL. It used to be that the superior benefits and pensions were a premier drawing card for the pro teams. But with those being cut for coaches by several teams in the last year, some top assistants, unable to interview for coordinator jobs and not quite deemed head coach candidates, are looking harder at college positions. Gray, for instance, was highly interested in the Memphis job, according to league sources, and would have taken it (it appeared to be his, but the university went in another direction).
 
I think Kevin Greene would be a very interesting choice for DC. Young, aggressive, former NFL player. He might not have experience as a DC, but has plenty of experience with the NFL.
 
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