Greg Jennings: Ryan Tannehill Has ‘Forced’ Confidence

[yoge]

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/07/2...ll-has-forced-confidence/?cid=twitter_560WQAM

“He has the mindset of a guy who definitely wants to be great,” Jennings said. “I had the luxury of being in huddle with Brett (Favre), had the luxury of being in the huddle with Aaron (Rodgers). There’s a huge difference. There’s just a huge difference. It’s more of that ‘it’ factor. . . . I didn’t experience that in the huddle. Does he have confidence? Absolutely, 100 percent. But does it come off as almost forced, like, ‘I want to be able to do this?’ In my opinion, yes. Now, again, I think a lot of that had to deal with the fact that he wasn’t really able to be who he wanted to be. He was kind of forced to be this robot in this system. That was evident. That was felt. That was the vibe that you got when you were in the huddle, like, ‘Okay, we’re going to make this work.’ It’s just different. It’s a huge difference when you step into the huddle and a quarterback carries that presence of, ‘Look, it does not matter what the play is. I’m going to make it work.’”

 

[hoops]

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/07/2...ll-has-forced-confidence/?cid=twitter_560WQAM

“He has the mindset of a guy who definitely wants to be great,” Jennings said. “I had the luxury of being in huddle with Brett (Favre), had the luxury of being in the huddle with Aaron (Rodgers). There’s a huge difference. There’s just a huge difference. It’s more of that ‘it’ factor. . . . I didn’t experience that in the huddle. Does he have confidence? Absolutely, 100 percent. But does it come off as almost forced, like, ‘I want to be able to do this?’ In my opinion, yes. Now, again, I think a lot of that had to deal with the fact that he wasn’t really able to be who he wanted to be. He was kind of forced to be this robot in this system. That was evident. That was felt. That was the vibe that you got when you were in the huddle, like, ‘Okay, we’re going to make this work.’ It’s just different. It’s a huge difference when you step into the huddle and a quarterback carries that presence of, ‘Look, it does not matter what the play is. I’m going to make it work.’”

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[Phinfan407]

I can def see this being the case, but when you're forced to run the play it has to be very difficult to have the "it" factor. There were some plays last year that he should've gotten himself out of but it seemed like he didn't have the freedom to do so. I want to see check out of a run play and throw the 9 to Devante at times. I think he's more than capable, especially since the offensive line should be better in pass pro.

 

[fansinceGWilson]

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/07/2...ll-has-forced-confidence/?cid=twitter_560WQAM “He has the mindset of a guy who definitely wants to be great,” Jennings said. “I had the luxury of being in huddle with Brett (Favre), had the luxury of being in the huddle with Aaron (Rodgers). There’s a huge difference. There’s just a huge difference. It’s more of that ‘it’ factor. . . . I didn’t experience that in the huddle. Does he have confidence? Absolutely, 100 percent. But does it come off as almost forced, like, ‘I want to be able to do this?’ In my opinion, yes. Now, again, I think a lot of that had to deal with the fact that he wasn’t really able to be who he wanted to be. He was kind of forced to be this robot in this system. That was evident. That was felt. That was the vibe that you got when you were in the huddle, like, ‘Okay, we’re going to make this work.’ It’s just different. It’s a huge difference when you step into the huddle and a quarterback carries that presence of, ‘Look, it does not matter what the play is. I’m going to make it work.’”

Ummm, I have my doubts. ‘Look, it does not matter what the play is. I’m going to make it work.’ If that was the mindset, no need for audibles. And if they audible, then they didn't think they could make the play work. I get his point. But elite QBs have the confidence from success. No one says Tannehill is elite.

 

[Hayden Fox]

Joe Philbin was a disaster.

 

[royalshank]

One thing that slightly bothers me is this: doesn't the QB have the ability to change the play in the huddle if he doesn't like the call? I'm not saying Ryan could be insubordinate but one way you could gain trust from the HC would be to say "screw this play, let's do this" and have it work. Marino used to do it all the time. Not comparing the two, and perhaps if Ryan did that Philbin would have benched him even if the play resulted in a TD but it feels like Ryan is being made out to be this helpless victim in all of this. I like Tannehill. But all this talk of being handcuffed and never doing anything about it (if true) has me a little queasy.

 

[gregorygrant83]

Joe Philbin was a disaster.

Philbin wasn't a disaster, you gave the job to someone with no experience and then wanted veteran results. Coaches often struggle during their first three or four years as they learn on the job, just like young players. This team needs to stop hiring inexperienced coaches if they want to be more than a training school for head coaches. I hope Gase is the exception to the rule.

 

[Ikema]

Joe Philbin was a disaster.

Definitely in hindsight he wasn't what this team needed. I had hope!

 

[royalshank]

Philbin wasn't a disaster, you gave the job to someone with no experience and then wanted veteran results. Coaches often struggle during their first three or four years as they learn on the job, just like young players. This team needs to stop hiring inexperienced coaches if they want to be more than a training school for head coaches. I hope Gase is the exception to the rule.

i agree w your post except i do think Philbin was special in this regard in that all the experience in the world wouldn't help him know not to give free timeouts to the opposition when they are out of them or to understand you need veteran leaders of good character in the locker room so you don't have bully-gate or you let young players like Matthews play instead of hiding them on the practice squad until their contract year etc. He was horrid and I doubt his HC experience w us makes him a better coach in his next gig should he ever get one. All that said, I wanted a veteran coach this go around or Campbell to remain. I hope Gase is indeed the exception. I'm not looking forward to half-way into the season when we are 3-5 headlines like, "Gase learning that hanging out w Peyton Manning on sideline much easier than running entire team" etc. because you know that's coming if we don't WIN now.

 

[fansinceGWilson]

i agree w your post except i do think Philbin was special in this regard in that all the experience in the world wouldn't help him know not to give free timeouts to the opposition when they are out of them or to understand you need veteran leaders of good character in the locker room so you don't have bully-gate or you let young players like Matthews play instead of hiding them on the practice squad until their contract year etc. He was horrid and I doubt his HC experience w us makes him a better coach in his next gig should he ever get one. All that said, I wanted a veteran coach this go around or Campbell to remain. I hope Gase is indeed the exception. I'm not looking forward to half-way into the season when we are 3-5 headlines like, "Gase learning that hanging out w Peyton Manning on sideline much easier than running entire team" etc. because you know that's coming if we don't WIN now.

Correct. REAL HCs don't keep making the same mistakes over and over. REAL HCs know how to inspire a team. REAL HCs aren't afraid of alpha players. "Disaster" sounds about right.

 

[lurking]

part of the article you left out...

Jennings, who spent the majority of his career in Green Bay, played his final season with Ryan Tannehill in Miami. He thinks Tannehill has talent, but he’s not sure whether the 28-year-old Texas A&M product will ever get the most out of it.

“I think that we will see,” Jennings said on Tiki and Tierney. “I don’t know. I believe that he has what it takes, but because his hands have been tied – because he hasn’t been able to really showcase who he is as a player because of the system or whatever the case may have been – this is his opportunity to take more of a responsibility and a role of, ‘I got this, guys. You can trust me. Coach, you can trust me. Give me more freedom so I can really show my teammates, and even myself, who I can be in this league.’ Because quite honestly, right now he thinks it, but it’s never happened, so no one knows.”

 

[finsfan43]

Philbin wasn't a disaster, you gave the job to someone with no experience and then wanted veteran results. Coaches often struggle during their first three or four years as they learn on the job, just like young players. This team needs to stop hiring inexperienced coaches if they want to be more than a training school for head coaches. I hope Gase is the exception to the rule.

Jim Harbaugh first year HC took SF from 6-10 to 13-3. Other first time HC's Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh even Rex Ryan. JH had the least amount of experience. Some HC's just don't have the "IT" factor.

 

[Phinatic8u]

Isn't this the same interview he had at the end of the season?

 

[yoge]

Why would Philbin jeopardize his own coaching career by holding his own QB back from audibling? There is a reason why RT hasn't been giving the power to audible.

 

[finsfan43]

part of the article you left out...

Jennings, who spent the majority of his career in Green Bay, played his final season with Ryan Tannehill in Miami. He thinks Tannehill has talent, but he’s not sure whether the 28-year-old Texas A&M product will ever get the most out of it.

“I think that we will see,” Jennings said on Tiki and Tierney. “I don’t know. I believe that he has what it takes, but because his hands have been tied – because he hasn’t been able to really showcase who he is as a player because of the system or whatever the case may have been – this is his opportunity to take more of a responsibility and a role of, ‘I got this, guys. You can trust me. Coach, you can trust me. Give me more freedom so I can really show my teammates, and even myself, who I can be in this league.’ Because quite honestly, right now he thinks it, but it’s never happened, so no one knows.”

Also where do fans people think Rodgers got some of the "IT" factor and swagger from? Try sitting behind Brett Gunslinger Favre for a year. Also here you kid, the keys to the Ferrari, you have control within reason. He still would have a lot to learn but when you have coaching staff that is not as INEPT as the dolphins it makes learning and playing QB a little easier, along with gaining confidence in yourself and from your teammates.