Harrington named starter against Jets

[Rich]

What a stupid move! Maybe Saban only saw the first half of the game. Harrington finished with a 58 QB rating, and could not score in the second half. I'll take the NFL's most accurate passer (Culpepper), with a limp, over the league's best backup(Harrington), any day of the week.

 

[Desides]

I suppose the pendulum had to swing to the other side sometime.

Saban refuses to play Culpepper any further until Culpepper regains more of his mobility. That leaves Harrington, plain and simple. Harrington plays solid but unspectacular football. If the team executes, Harrington can help us win. If not, we'll lose.

And not to denigrate his rating, but Culpepper isn't the NFL's most accurate passer. He's ranked behind Kurt Warner and I believe Marc Bulger.

 

[ch19079]

What a stupid move! Maybe Saban only saw the first half of the game. Harrington finished with a 58 QB rating, and could not score in the second half. I'll take the NFL's most accurate passer (Culpepper), with a limp, over the league's best backup(Harrington), any day of the week.

culpepper is a completly diffrent QB after his injury. his old stats dont mean much.

right now, harrington looks better. :hide:

 

[BLITZKRIEG]

Maybe you're right, maybe he only saw the first half of the game on Sunday. That was all I was able to see, and that's all I needed. QB J. Harrington makes D. Culpepper look like R. Lucas in my opinion.....

Only a fool would start Culpepper at this stage.....

PHINZ RULE!!!!!

 

[LoXiN]

What a stupid move! Maybe Saban only saw the first half of the game. Harrington finished with a 58 QB rating, and could not score in the second half. I'll take the NFL's most accurate passer (Culpepper), with a limp, over the league's best backup(Harrington), any day of the week.

I suppose the fact that even after taking a week on the sideline still being the worst in sacks/sack yardage is meaningless to you.

 

[jim1]

What a stupid move! Maybe Saban only saw the first half of the game. Harrington finished with a 58 QB rating, and could not score in the second half. I'll take the NFL's most accurate passer (Culpepper), with a limp, over the league's best backup(Harrington), any day of the week.

You've got to be kidding on that one.

 

[muscle979]

What a stupid move! Maybe Saban only saw the first half of the game. Harrington finished with a 58 QB rating, and could not score in the second half. I'll take the NFL's most accurate passer (Culpepper), with a limp, over the league's best backup(Harrington), any day of the week.

Will you take the 5 sacks per game too? Will you take the indecisiveness in the pocket and inability to move the offense prior to the 4th quarter when the team's down by two scores? Anybody who's got eyes can see that Harrington gives us the best chance to get something going right now. Your hero daunte couldn't even move the offense against two of the worst Ds in the league. Give me a break. Harrington's got a ton more upside right now. I say let Daunte heal fully and play him next season. If he can't produce then, the excuses are over.

 

[Mater Dei]

Oh go ahead start Culpepper. I'll just mark a L in the column for ya.

 

[LoXiN]

Maybe you're right, maybe he only saw the first half of the game on Sunday. That was all I was able to see, and that's all I needed. QB J. Harrington makes D. Culpepper look like R. Lucas in my opinion.....

Only a fool would start Culpepper at this stage.....

PHINZ RULE!!!!!

God, I remember when we all wanted Lucas in instead of Fiedler.

 

[Silverphin]

Maybe you're right, maybe he only saw the first half of the game on Sunday. That was all I was able to see, and that's all I needed. QB J. Harrington makes D. Culpepper look like R. Lucas in my opinion.....

Only a fool would start Culpepper at this stage.....

PHINZ RULE!!!!!

Don't be so sure about that.

The thing is, he threw two picks, which was deadly considering that Patriots scored most of our points on our three turnovers. And while his picks weren't back to back, he threw the two picks in consecutive drives. Also, keep in mind that Culpepper has at least proven to be a better QB in the 2 minute drill than Harrington.

 

[nuttie_buddie]

What a stupid move! Maybe Saban only saw the first half of the game. Harrington finished with a 58 QB rating, and could not score in the second half. I'll take the NFL's most accurate passer (Culpepper), with a limp, over the league's best backup(Harrington), any day of the week.

hey rich....y dont we put u out there against the pats.. c how big of a rating u would get...1 thing is forsure u would make history...u end up with the lowest rating in nfl history...

now lets give him a chance(like we have any choice) he was not doing that bad until the second half...he kept us close...and it seems to me that people need to start catching the ball out there....

he was put in there with the thought of turning the season around because a "QB" that was suppose to do better throw away the first game...and the second game...and hardily won the thrid game...he was only sack once too...so i stay good move saban....plus like pepper was doing any better out there:tantrum:

 

[Rich]

Will you take the 5 sacks per game too?

It didn't appear that the patriots were blitzing. Uncertain if this is true, or Harrington was just getting the ball out so fast. Anyways, I'll trade 4 additional sacks for 2 interceptions leading to touchdowns.

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There is no doubt that Culpepper holds the ball too long. With a good o-line, sometimes that extra half-second leads to a 30 yard completion. With a poor o-line, this leads to disaster. I guess Harrington is more used to playing with a poor o-line. He took a lot of sacks in Detroit.

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Harrington has a chance on sunday to confirm culpepper's mobility problem. If he takes fewer than 5 sacks, and wins (or scores 17+ points)... then I guess he wins the qb spot for a while.

If the jets have 5 sacks and Harrington throws 2 more picks.... then it's back to Culpepper, with people clammering for Lemon.

 

[BillyBean]

It didn't appear that the patriots were blitzing. Uncertain if this is true, or Harrington was just getting the ball out so fast. Anyways, I'll trade 4 additional sacks for 2 interceptions leading to touchdowns.

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There is no doubt that Culpepper holds the ball too long. With a good o-line, sometimes that extra half-second leads to a 30 yard completion. With a poor o-line, this leads to disaster. I guess Harrington is more used to playing with a poor o-line. He took a lot of sacks in Detroit.

Good points made here.

Teams play QBs differently. The report on Joey is let him try to beat you with his arm. Let him have all the dink/dunk stuff, he's more than willing to throw it. Just make sure you have guys downfield, because when he goes deep, he throws it up for grabs.

The run game will suffer because the defense has determined that Joey is a one dimensional player (nothing deep) and will pressure the QB with the guy that was watching the RB.

They'll play the corners a little more back and give Joey the outlet that he loves, the dink.

You'll see a lot more 3 and outs that almost made it, if only the short guy could have broken a tackle. (never mind the grumblings of those who say the WR didn't quite get it in stride).

Joey also hates taking sacks. And coaches don't want him to either. He gets rattled after he gets hit.

Look at his first two years in Detroit.

2002 - 429 pass attempts, 8 sacks

2003 - 554 pass attempts, 9 sacks

(and nobody in their right mind would argue that the Lions had the best OL in history)

The optimist's "quick release" is the pessimist's "gave up on the play". It's only a matter of time before WR on deep routes begin to feel neglected. And when a token pass is thrown their way, they will legitimately complain that it wasn't even close. But it was thrown, so the Joey Supporters can point to the attempt. Never mind quality...

The question is... Why go nuts to sack a guy if he isn't going to hurt you when he actually throws the ball?

That may be why they're all over Culpepper when he's in.

 

[miamiron]

I suppose the pendulum had to swing to the other side sometime.

Saban refuses to play Culpepper any further until Culpepper regains more of his mobility. That leaves Harrington, plain and simple. Harrington plays solid but unspectacular football. If the team executes, Harrington can help us win. If not, we'll lose.

And not to denigrate his rating, but Culpepper isn't the NFL's most accurate passer. He's ranked behind Kurt Warner and I believe Marc Bulger.

I think this may become comical to the point when/if Harrington implodes
and starts to have a major meltdown...
NICK"LOMBARDI IN HIS OWN MIND"SABAN will start Daunte after a quick and
miraculous rehab...

Nick at the press conference..:wink:

OK...ALLRIGHT:tantrum: ...DONT ASK ME ABOUT DAUNTE'S LIMP:sneak: BECAUSE...ALLRIGHT
IT'S NOT A LIMP BUT THE NEW DOLPHIN SWAGGER...AND I EXPECT EVERYONE TO LIMP ALLRIGHT...

ALLRIGHT..."I ONLY ANSWER MY OWN QUESTIONS FROM NOW ON" ALLRIGHT:tantrum:
AND YOU CAN BANK ON THAT...NICK"LOSING RECORD" LOMBARDI