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Have you ever seen so much negativity after a win?

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After reading most of these posts and the articles in the Herald and Sun-Sentinal, I can't believe we actually won a football game. This team is being portrayed as the 2nd worst team in the entire NFL behind the Titans. That's just ridiculous. (We're 3rd worst at the worst behind the Titans and Raiders!). Kidding.

All of this negativity stems from the expectations we had of this team. Culpepper is clearly not healthy enough to lead this team to a 12-4 season, but maybe as he gets stronger and more mobile, we can get to 8-8 or 9-7 or even 10-6. It's just a like watching a movie. If you think it's gonna be the best movie you ever saw, you'll always be dissapointed. We all thought this was going to be a best picture type season.

Look, I bought into the hype as well. I envisioned Culpepper flinging passes to Chambers and Booker, and Ronnie Brown running wild, and the defense stuffing opponents, and Mare actually making 30-yarders, and Saban out-coaching every team...but that was unrealisitic. This team has a horrible offensive line, a brand new secondary, an aging front 7, and a crippled quarterback. All of our expectations need to be lowered a bit, and when the team starts playing better as the year goes on (hopefully), we can actually enjoy a victory. For example, I'm not thinking we're going to roll into Houston and cruise. If we beat the Texans, who have a very good offense, I'm going to be thrilled, instead of saying, "Man, we suck. We barely beat the Texans." Right now, I'd say it's a pick-em game and we need to treat it as such.

By the way, the only way Culpepper is going to avoid being sacked 6 times a game is with designed rollouts. And if he's not healthy enough to rollout of the pocket now and again, then he shouldn't be playing. With this O-line, we absolutely have to have a mobile quarterback, and if C-Pep can't be that, we're doomed.
 
Well said. He didn't seem to have a problem with the designed rollout they had this game.
 
I think you make some great points. I hadn't had this high expectations since the Marino days. I can't recall feeling so unexcited about a win and I have been following them for 35 years. It will be interesting to see if Miami can build off this win. Hope so...

Excellent point about designed rollouts with our o-line. IMO that is why Harrington should get a shot bc it is clear Daunte does not have the mobility right now.
 
That sound you heard is all of our expectations crashing back to earth. I don't think it's going to be as bad as 2004, but I would like to have a serious playoff run to hang my hat on.

Michael
 
Very much agreed. Im glad i get to seem them this week in Houston 2-2!!!!
 
We need to go into Houston and blow them out. No more 13-10 crap. We need a 30 point win!!!
 
We have the LARGEST and HIGHEST paid coaching staff in football! That's not an automatic ticket to wins, but on the other hand, after 3 games, we shpuldn't be this bad. Oakland has reject coaches, Titans have a starting QB that no one wanted and picked him up a week before the season started and he looked better than CPEP. Sorry, I'm not blaming the fans for unrealistic ecpectations. That's why we're fans! The product on the field given the investment is lousy right now. Even Wanny had excuses. Saban complained about the weather, Huzenga gets him a 9 million dollar bubble pracrice facility. If i was Wayne, I'd be angry!
 
i've been a fan since i've been watching football and i have never been so disinterested in a game they won in all my life. our team is not good, maybe they need to play together a bit more to get better chemestryand better health wise but as of right now. i mean its understandable we lose in pit but buffalo man handles us at home and the titans have the lead against us at home for a good portion of the game and still we only end up winning with a late fg.im sorry but this win felt like we lost.we lost so much respect after this performance.i've never felt like a loser of winning but i know how that felt after watching my beloved dolphins be carved up by the likes of outkasts like k.collins and t.henry please LORD help us all i still have faith for positive things but so far the product we have isnt clicking.
 
zonk4ever said:
We have the LARGEST and HIGHEST paid coaching staff in football! That's not an automatic ticket to wins, but on the other hand, after 3 games, we shpuldn't be this bad. Oakland has reject coaches, Titans have a starting QB that no one wanted and picked him up a week before the season started and he looked better than CPEP. Sorry, I'm not blaming the fans for unrealistic ecpectations. That's why we're fans! The product on the field given the investment is lousy right now. Even Wanny had excuses. Saban complained about the weather, Huzenga gets him a 9 million dollar bubble pracrice facility. If i was Wayne, I'd be angry!

Not only that, but we are only 500,000-600,000 under the salary cap. For what we are seeing so far, this team is waaaaay overpaid.
I'm not negative, but I have now become realistic. This team will be lucky to finish 3rd in the division. As of right now they are by far the worst team in the AFC East. I do not see them beating the Pats and Jets on the road, so we are possibly looking at 2-4. Playoffs are highly unlikely.
There are those who say don't panic because this team will challenge in 1-2 yrs. I say, baloney because the core of the defense will need to be replaced i.e JT, ZT, Holliday, Carter, Traylor and Wilkinson. That's a lot of bodies to replace in 1-2 yrs.
As for DC, I don't think he's the long term answer either. The team needs to find somehow, someway a young signal caller for the future to develop. This team will never be a serious contender until that problem is solved and the only way to do that is with a really high draft pick. Just our dumb luck, the ONE yr we get the 2nd pick in the draft and there are no legit franchise QB's available.
 
danephin said:
After reading most of these posts and the articles in the Herald and Sun-Sentinal, I can't believe we actually won a football game. This team is being portrayed as the 2nd worst team in the entire NFL behind the Titans. That's just ridiculous. (We're 3rd worst at the worst behind the Titans and Raiders!). Kidding.
Second or third worst is about right. The Dolphins played horrible against a terrible team and barely eeked out a win. The negativity you are seeing reflects the fans realization that this team isn't very good.
 
There's a very good reason for negativity. We played like crap and barely beat the worst team in football. This season is going to be an unmitigated disaster unless Daunte, our O line and our defensive backfield bring up the level of their play and FAST.
 
Phanatical said:
danephin said:
After reading most of these posts and the articles in the Herald and Sun-Sentinal, I can't believe we actually won a football game. This team is being portrayed as the 2nd worst team in the entire NFL behind the Titans. That's just ridiculous. (We're 3rd worst at the worst behind the Titans and Raiders!). Kidding.
Second or third worst is about right. The Dolphins played horrible against a terrible team and barely eeked out a win. The negativity you are seeing reflects the fans realization that this team isn't very good.

Exactly. Remember, the Titans were moving the ball against our supposedly pumped up defense. They got lucky that the tight end coughed the ball up on the 1 yd line and Allen was able to pick it up and advance. If Tenn had scored right there the game would have been over.
Once again we had trouble running the ball against one of the worst run defenses in the league.
In a game the Phins had to have, they eked out a lucky win against one of the 3 worst teams in the league while at home AND in September. Doesn't bode well for the rest of the season unless the level of play improves dramatically.
 
danephin said:
After reading most of these posts and the articles in the Herald and Sun-Sentinal, I can't believe we actually won a football game. This team is being portrayed as the 2nd worst team in the entire NFL behind the Titans. That's just ridiculous. (We're 3rd worst at the worst behind the Titans and Raiders!). Kidding.

All of this negativity stems from the expectations we had of this team. Culpepper is clearly not healthy enough to lead this team to a 12-4 season, but maybe as he gets stronger and more mobile, we can get to 8-8 or 9-7 or even 10-6. It's just a like watching a movie. If you think it's gonna be the best movie you ever saw, you'll always be dissapointed. We all thought this was going to be a best picture type season.

Look, I bought into the hype as well. I envisioned Culpepper flinging passes to Chambers and Booker, and Ronnie Brown running wild, and the defense stuffing opponents, and Mare actually making 30-yarders, and Saban out-coaching every team...but that was unrealisitic. This team has a horrible offensive line, a brand new secondary, an aging front 7, and a crippled quarterback. All of our expectations need to be lowered a bit, and when the team starts playing better as the year goes on (hopefully), we can actually enjoy a victory. For example, I'm not thinking we're going to roll into Houston and cruise. If we beat the Texans, who have a very good offense, I'm going to be thrilled, instead of saying, "Man, we suck. We barely beat the Texans." Right now, I'd say it's a pick-em game and we need to treat it as such.

By the way, the only way Culpepper is going to avoid being sacked 6 times a game is with designed rollouts. And if he's not healthy enough to rollout of the pocket now and again, then he shouldn't be playing. With this O-line, we absolutely have to have a mobile quarterback, and if C-Pep can't be that, we're doomed.

Its ridiculous! Absolutely you're right on that. I just finished reading up all the morning articles on the Miami Herald, Sun-Sentinel and Palm Beach Post. I know there's things we need to work on, but they're not giving Culpepper any credit for what he did yesterday. At least we won and didn't lose. Could you imagine how bad it would have been if the Titans actually won yesterrday? It can only get better from here. There's two things that I believe they should do. One protect Daunte: He's not getting enough time back there to throw at all. You can't blame him for holding onto the ball too long this time. There was one snap in the game where he couldn't even hand the ball off the defense brought too many guys in and didn't have enough guys protecting Daunte. I mean this is a guy who came off of a major knee injury...yes I know its cliche of me saying this, but we need to keep this guy on the field. You can't just let him get swamped in a matter of 2 seconds. Timing needs to be worked on and they need to get Chambers more involved. 4 receptions for 39 yards albeit a touchdown that he should have had was taken back, however, its still not enough. I like how they're running the ball now and they stuck with it this time. Turnovers were key in this game and it lead me to believe that our defense can make a huge impact in the game.
 
zonk4ever said:
We have the LARGEST and HIGHEST paid coaching staff in football! That's not an automatic ticket to wins, but on the other hand, after 3 games, we shpuldn't be this bad. Oakland has reject coaches, Titans have a starting QB that no one wanted and picked him up a week before the season started and he looked better than CPEP. Sorry, I'm not blaming the fans for unrealistic ecpectations. That's why we're fans! The product on the field given the investment is lousy right now. Even Wanny had excuses. Saban complained about the weather, Huzenga gets him a 9 million dollar bubble pracrice facility. If i was Wayne, I'd be angry!

Colllins DID NOT look better then CPEP, the titans would have won the game if they had a QB in there. He missed atleast 4 wide open guys downfield that proably would have all led to big big gains if not TDs.
 
Rick 1966 said:
There's a very good reason for negativity. We played like crap and barely beat the worst team in football. This season is going to be an unmitigated disaster unless Daunte, our O line and our defensive backfield bring up the level of their play and FAST.

:yeahthat:



Yes we won, and thats great. We needed it. But if you are happy with what you saw on the field yesterday and think we can compete in the AFC playoff race with that kind of performance then you seriously need to check your expectations.
 
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