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Hayden Fox: "Queasy" about Ross' Impending HC Search

Hayden Fox

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We have seen this before...Steve Ross going "big game hunting" for the "face of the franchise" head coach or the "hot" GM candidate. However, I am unsettled as we head into the coming weeks of where this is going to lead. Ross no doubt cares about this franchise, but he has shown no ability to deliver when it is time to deliver. After thinking about some the issues and reading some articles from the local media and the "heads up" posters on this site, I am concerned about a few things.

* IF, Ross does make a run for Jim Harbaugh or a Tom Gamble and whiffs, how bad does that make the organization look..again? You cannot get a hit without swinging...I get that. However, Ross has never been able to get it done and if he fails again the Dolphins will have egg on their face once again. How long does the stain of failing again stay with the franchise?

* For Ross to land Harbaugh, it will take a major commitment. I do not care about the money because it is not mine and he deserves a big salary. I do not care at this point how much power he is willing to give a HC...it might be a good thing based on how Ross has currentlydivvied up power. However, what would Ross be willing in terms of picks to get Harbaugh to simply just to "land him"? Hopefully, Harbaugh understands he is setting his new team (whoever that is) up for failure if a ship load of picks go to the Niners. However, does Ross know that or more vitally care? I think Ross is willing to give away the store just to say he has a "face" leading the team. That is not going to lead to success either if the picks are early rounds and over a few year period.

* The compensation piece will be interesting. I have seen many packages floated about some I could live such as http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/17/harbaugh-to-raiders-makes-plenty-of-sense/.
However, if the Raiders, Jets and Dolphins and for that matter a surprise team like the Giants or Bears get involved it will only up the price for the coach. This venture could end up being more than we bargained for.

* If Ross swings and misses on a Harbaugh or Tom Gamble, what is the fallback option? There are some nice candidates, but I am worried Ross is going to stumble around trying to find the "home run" candidates and be left with finding midrange options. There is nothing wrong with these guys and maybe they will end up better than the most talked about ones. However, Ross seems to be setting the media and fans up for a huge move. If he fails with the big time move and ends up with middle of the road candidate, what will that do for the perception of the franchise? If Ross misses on a Harbaugh or Brian Kelly like type hire, but have no head coaching experience. Does a Dan Quinn "move the needle"? Does a retread coach like a Gary Kubiak do much? Maybe, but maybe not. Again, Ross is about to enter into the unknown and when in this universe has consistently failed.

* Is Ross going to make an organization that has the proper structure? Is Ross willing to put an FO and coaching staff together that has the same vision going into coming years or will he insist on cobbling together individuals that were part of past regimes.

* Finally, I have been the biggest critic of Joe Philbin for years. I have clearly stated he is not going to get this team to the next level and have been proven right. However, I have also said that a 9-7 would demonstrate progress. For argument's sake, what happens if the team plays hard and fundamentally sound for the next two weeks and win their next two games. Does Steve Ross really fire Philbin with a winning record? Does he make a move that ultimately puts Ryan Tannehill in another offensive system...his third in four years? Does firing a coach at 9-7 make the job less attractive because possible candidates will think the bar is too high. It is an easy decision to terminate Philbin if the team splits its games or gets swept. If the team "runs for the bus" or is sloppy...easy call, but what if the team steps up for their coach in the coming weeks? Not so sure...

That is where I get "queasy" about this...this is quite a roll of the dice between what it will cost to get the coach and if you don't the embarrassment of failing again. Ross means well, but he has consistently failed when entering the fray for a big time coach or GM. Here is hoping the team ends up in a positive direction in the end.
 
Steve Ross isn't a presence that will attract top coaches and executives. Not sure why people think a guy that already made a fool of himself trying to get Harbaugh in the first place will be successful getting him now.
 
Your queasy when the wind blows
 
I have mentioned in multiple topics that Ross should only replace Philbin if you know you have a significantly better coach ready to sign. A change just to change does significant damage to the future of this team.
 
MadDog doesn't care what the franchise looks like. Just find a coach that wins.
 
So if Harbaugh we part with a 4th rounder.

If no Harbaugh and the search goes public (and it will), we have another year of Ross missing on his main target and settle for the duff at the bar.

Guess it's just me but I dont see the big to-do with Harbaugh. He took the league by storm with his read-option (Kap) attack and a team STACKED with talent.

Read-option PRIMARY teams are done for in the NFL after the two seasons D Coord. took to adjust and Kap is exposed. Toss in his side line antics?

:idk:
 
:sidelol: @ your subject line

Seriously. One of the more notable wtfs I've had recently on finheaven and that's saying something.

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MadDog doesn't care what the franchise looks like. Just find a coach that wins.

TheWalrus thinks that Dana Andrews was pretty great in Laura. And you can trust him, he just watched it again a few days ago.
 
One thing you have to consider about Harbaugh (I still don't think he's even a viable option for us) is that you can pretty much guarantee that Tannehill will be shown the door, much like Alex Smith was. You can also guarantee that there will be many awkward things said during press conferences, and just as many clock management issues during the game as with Philbin (does anyone here actually watch 49's games?). Our finicky local press will have a field day with that. Oh, and players are going to hate their coach. But if that's what fans want, then so be it.
 
ConvenientTruth wonders if you have ever given Pepto Bismol a try?
 
MadDog believes that Miami will be a more likely landing spot than Oakland. MadDog assures everyone that the wife not wanting to leave the Bay area is not an issue.
 
ChambersWI still thinks Michigan for Harbaugh but also no matter who the new head coach is it will be a crap shoot and they deserve our support (except Rex Ryan **** that guy)
 
MadDog believes that Miami will be a more likely landing spot than Oakland. MadDog assures everyone that the wife not wanting to leave the Bay area is not an issue.

TheWalrus has learned that Harbaugh's wife is actually from the St. Louis area, which according to experts on geography is not very close to San Francisco. TheWalrus has also learned that Harbaugh's wife didn't even live in California until after they were married six years ago. She lived in Las Vegas, which is also to the best of his knowledge not in San Francisco.
 
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