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Henning: The Wrong OC 4Now and 4Later?

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While recognizing that his play calling limitations could well be influenced by a dink and dunk QB, a young OL and receivers unable to gain separation, I'm concerned that Henning is the wrong OC now and in the future.

Even having to contend with a box more crowded than some heiresses' IMO, his sequence of his play calling could still manage to be more inspired and less predictable, even when calling ground plays. Remember, he's been fired by at the least Carolina and Buffalo for being too conservative.

For those who point to his 2 Wash SB rings under Gibbs, considering that the NFL is a league in constant transition, what's more pertinent, as Gibbs recently determined, is "what have you done for me lately?" On a more recent basis, those who point to his 2004 SB appearance under Fox might well have a point, but keep in mind that season he had 2 stud RBs, a live-armed QB, who, if nothing else, could stretch the field and of course Steve Smith lurking out there to keep defenders honest. Looking back at Henning's more recent body of work, it seems that season was the anomoly.

He's a dynosaur who roamed when the lay of the land looked much different. This guy is 66 years old, the NFL equivalent of Joe Pa. I recognize he was brought in to marshall a "run first and foremost" type offense, and how innovative can we really expect him to be when faced with the realities of our team's shortcomings? BUT, when even I can predict 3 out of every 5 of his calls (literally, I've been counting), there's definitely a problem.

Perhaps you can argue that he's a steady-hand which is what we need presently for our journey from doormat to bellringer. However, we also need to win a few games along the way to keep butts in the orange seats and maintain player morale about that proverbial light somewhere at the end of this dark dank tunnel. We also need to see what we've got at their best for the FO to determine who stays or goes as the team continues to shed its seasonal old skin.

As dissatisfied as I am with the play calling status quo, I'm even more concerned how Henning's offensive "philosophy" could undermine the development of Henne, Ginn and other receivers. I suspect that even Chad's live-armed laser bullets would be activated in too predictable a manner - going through the obligatory motions to stretch the field or having to air it out mostly across from an interception-conducive prevent defense when it's a point where home runs remain our only obvious options.

Were there no more offensive-minded, resourceful, innovative OCs or assistants out there when Tuna hired his old buddy? IMO it is this practice of nepotism done at the team's expense that I find the most troubling of all.

Am I scapegoating Henning as an easy whipping boy for a collective miserable effort to date? Maybe, but even so, it's difficult to see how his presence will benefit the development of our young studs, especially Henne if pressed into service sooner than later.
 
Agreed...I am very dissatisfied with the playcalling. Yuo know what i would like to see? Us come out on our first drive and run a two minute offense. Change things up a bit and give future opponents something to think about.
 
When taking over a team as an OC, the way I see it you basically have one of two situations: #1.) I have enough talent to run the system I want or... #2.) I don't have enough talent to run the system I want--I will have to see what plays these guys are capable of running until I get more talent.

After quickly realizing that #1 wasn't possible, it appears Henning took the ball and ran with option #2... and promptly fumbled it. There are guys who allegedly have ability but aren't on the field. If they don't belong on the field, for whatever reason, then why were they acquired in the first place?

Not Henning's responsibility to acquire talent, but are there no plays in his 40 year arsenal of experience that can utilize that talent we have at hand? That was the main reason he was allegedly brought in. If he can't do the task assigned to him, then he's no better than OLs whiffing on blocks, RBs lining up in the wrong formation, wasted timeouts, late hits, facemask penalties, DBs running different coverages at the same time, etc. etc.

This isn't about the Dolphins lack of talent, this is about putting ourselves in the best position possible with the talent on hand every time we step on the field. That's his job.

I expect to see Henning counter what defenses are doing to his offense, and come up with some semblance of an attack that gives us a chance at being successful, even as we head to New England and face a very formidable foe. I'm not asking for a win, i'm asking for improvement. If the task of getting the most out of his players is beyond him, then perhaps the next churning of the bottom of our roster should include Mr. Henning himself.
 
Agreed...I am very dissatisfied with the playcalling. Yuo know what i would like to see? Us come out on our first drive and run a two minute offense. Change things up a bit and give future opponents something to think about.

I agree. we have to do something unexpected. because running on first and second down, throw on third down, is not a game plan that will be very succesfull.
 
No, you could not. You have no idea what is involved in mastering even the cliff notes version of a NFL play book!

He doesn't need to. Former HC of the Philadelphia Eagles Buddy Ryan had two plays, and I quote: "run the damn ball" and "pass the damn ball." That's calling a game. He dictated what he wanted and his underlings (coordinators) worried about the details.

Most of us know what kinds of plays we'd like to see, even if we don't know the names of such plays or the nuances of them. Perhaps a better way to say it is that many on FH could direct a better offensive game plan than what we've seen so far. Of that I have no doubt.
 
It's the lack of halftime adjustments to our game plan that I find troubling. Is it because there is no match ups on the field that we can win? I find it hard to swallow that he is not changing up the plays simply because he dosnt know better. I think this team has issues with the fundamental mechanics of the game. Look at the errors we have seen so far.

Penalties kill us
Players are constantly out of postion to even have a chance at making plays
blockers are getting beaten
People like to blame Pennington but he is one of the few players that executes his role with any kind of profiency.

So if your offensive cordinator what would you do with this mess?
Throw it long to noone?
Throw a screen that will be buried behind the line
run into straight into a wall of defenders that arnt going to budge

Im not sticking up for the guy because I dont know if he is any good or not because he has no tools to work with. You all are right he may very well be a part of the problem and partially responsible for why we look so bad but how can you tell? I know I cant tell.
 
I partially agree that Henning could change up the playcalling a little, especially on 1st down and near the goal line. More troubling to me is that the coaching staff doesn't yet have a handle on the strengths and weaknesses of our players. We have very few complete players on this team, but most of them do certain things well. For example:
1. Why isn't Ted Ginn motioned around or lined up in the slot? Ginn's speed might be better used on drag routes and crosses. Plus, with the fear of his straight line speed, we should be able to throw the 7-8 yard comeback route all day. It just doesn't seem to be in the gameplan.
2. Ronnie seems to be running hard, and he's definitely our most complete back. Yes, he dropped an easy one this Sunday, but he's still got great hands out of the backfield. Does anyone remember when Ronnie was split out in the slot at Auburn with Cadillac in the backfield? Why not give the defense another look and get our best players, Ricky and Ronnie, on the field together?
3. Chad Pennington is a timing quarterback. Right now, he's holding the ball too long, and defensive backs are breaking on the throws. It's no secret that he doesn't have the greatest arm. I say throw the ball on time no matter what...then maybe our receivers will learn to get to the right spot on time.
 
While recognizing that his play calling limitations could well be influenced by a dink and dunk QB, a young OL and receivers unable to gain separation, I'm concerned that Henning is the wrong OC now and in the future.

Even having to contend with a box more crowded than some heiresses' IMO, his sequence of his play calling could still manage to be more inspired and less predictable, even when calling ground plays. Remember, he's been fired by at the least Carolina and Buffalo for being too conservative.

For those who point to his 2 Wash SB rings under Gibbs, considering that the NFL is a league in constant transition, what's more pertinent, as Gibbs recently determined, is "what have you done for me lately?" On a more recent basis, those who point to his 2004 SB appearance under Fox might well have a point, but keep in mind that season he had 2 stud RBs, a live-armed QB, who, if nothing else, could stretch the field and of course Steve Smith lurking out there to keep defenders honest. Looking back at Henning's more recent body of work, it seems that season was the anomoly.

He's a dynosaur who roamed when the lay of the land looked much different. This guy is 66 years old, the NFL equivalent of Joe Pa. I recognize he was brought in to marshall a "run first and foremost" type offense, and how innovative can we really expect him to be when faced with the realities of our team's shortcomings? BUT, when even I can predict 3 out of every 5 of his calls (literally, I've been counting), there's definitely a problem.

Perhaps you can argue that he's a steady-hand which is what we need presently for our journey from doormat to bellringer. However, we also need to win a few games along the way to keep butts in the orange seats and maintain player morale about that proverbial light somewhere at the end of this dark dank tunnel. We also need to see what we've got at their best for the FO to determine who stays or goes as the team continues to shed its seasonal old skin.

As dissatisfied as I am with the play calling status quo, I'm even more concerned how Henning's offensive "philosophy" could undermine the development of Henne, Ginn and other receivers. I suspect that even Chad's live-armed laser bullets would be activated in too predictable a manner - going through the obligatory motions to stretch the field or having to air it out mostly across from an interception-conducive prevent defense when it's a point where home runs remain our only obvious options.

Were there no more offensive-minded, resourceful, innovative OCs or assistants out there when Tuna hired his old buddy? IMO it is this practice of nepotism done at the team's expense that I find the most troubling of all.

Am I scapegoating Henning as an easy whipping boy for a collective miserable effort to date? Maybe, but even so, it's difficult to see how his presence will benefit the development of our young studs, especially Henne if pressed into service sooner than later.

Agreed, I am not at all impressed with his playcalling selections and am already afraid he is the wrong man for the job.
 
More troubling to me is that the coaching staff doesn't yet have a handle on the strengths and weaknesses of our players.

That's a good point. They have all the film they need, and they've been together since BP hired them... so why do they act like they don't know what they have here?

Man to man on Boldin & Fitz? Seriously? So what if Warner carves us up 10-15 yards at a time. Make him work for it. Don't give 'em cheap stuff because you don't have the players to take 'em head on.

We used to use Tony Martin on quick slants & slip screens, and I'm not sure why they don't think Ginn could do that, as well. If you can't get it to him 60 yards down field you have to come up with something else.

Ronnie does usually have good hands and that should be taken into account as well. He should be on the field in every red zone situation because he could line up in so many places and help you in so many ways.

Chad Pennington is a timing quarterback. Right now, he's holding the ball too long, and defensive backs are breaking on the throws. It's no secret that he doesn't have the greatest arm. I say throw the ball on time no matter what...then maybe our receivers will learn to get to the right spot on time.

Don't agree so much here. They are playing the percentages of waiting for these clod WRs to hit their mark vs. throwing the ball to the opponent. It does expose a weakness in our passing offense but until a WR steps up that can be counted on with timing routes, Penny has to be extraordinarily careful throwing the ball.
 
That's a good point. They have all the film they need, and they've been together since BP hired them... so why do they act like they don't know what they have here?

Man to man on Boldin & Fitz? Seriously? So what if Warner carves us up 10-15 yards at a time. Make him work for it. Don't give 'em cheap stuff because you don't have the players to take 'em head on.

We used to use Tony Martin on quick slants & slip screens, and I'm not sure why they don't think Ginn could do that, as well. If you can't get it to him 60 yards down field you have to come up with something else.

Ronnie does usually have good hands and that should be taken into account as well. He should be on the field in every red zone situation because he could line up in so many places and help you in so many ways.



Don't agree so much here. They are playing the percentages of waiting for these clod WRs to hit their mark vs. throwing the ball to the opponent. It does expose a weakness in our passing offense but until a WR steps up that can be counted on with timing routes, Penny has to be extraordinarily careful throwing the ball.

you changed ur Avi... Very Niiice!
 
A QB who's been on the team for 6 weeks. A rookie LT. A revolving door at RG. A 2nd year C. An underachieving, overpaid free agent WR. No legitimate WR1. An underachieving, confidence lacking, undisciplined #9 pick WR. A 3rd year WR who only catches the ball when he wants too. 2 other first year WRs. A RB1 still recovering from a massive injury. And a free agent LG and veteran RT who played LT last year. A new coaching staff. A new FO.

Is anyone seeing the reasons why this simply has not come together yet?

Or is the board too full of top level managers who oversimply every single problem?

In 4 years when we are finally in the playoffs on a regular basis with THIS FO and Coach, I won't be surprised with the constant level of discontent then either.

How many of you have applied for a coaching job in the NFL?

How many of you have secured a job coaching in the NFL?

Apparently the chair, the door, the car and the drive to the closest NFL team is all that separates you from your next job. Those interviews are elusive creatures, aren't they?
 
Personally I liked the beginning of the game where we ran a toss-sweep to Ronnie to the right side while lined up on the right hashmark WTF! There's no room for a toss sweep!
 
A QB who's been on the team for 6 weeks. A rookie LT. A revolving door at RG. A 2nd year C. An underachieving, overpaid free agent WR. No legitimate WR1. An underachieving, confidence lacking, undisciplined #9 pick WR. A 3rd year WR who only catches the ball when he wants too. 2 other first year WRs. A RB1 still recovering from a massive injury. And a free agent LG and veteran RT who played LT last year. A new coaching staff. A new FO.

Is anyone seeing the reasons why this simply has not come together yet?

Absolutely, but am not seeing why a supposedly competent starting QB, despite his relative lack of weapons can only put up 3 points against a team not especially defensively oriented. Also wonder why in week 1, despite ourselves, we had a shot at winning but the, errr, tall guy who could have outjumped and outstretched the defenders, was signed for just this kind of occasion and had shown marked practice and game improvement the last exhibition game was nowhere to be seen since he was inactive. You don't have to be football's version of Ken Jennings to know a colassal forkup when you see it!

Or is the board too full of top level managers who oversimply every single problem?

...in a results driven, bottom-line arena where bottom-feeders like Ryan and Heerspink are quickly released for underperformance, and old reliables like Jay Feeley are deemed expendable (and how did that kicking game work out against the Jets..and might field position have made any difference???), why can't we formulate the same opinions about those who are pulling the strings? What makes them off limits??

In 4 years when we are finally in the playoffs on a regular basis with THIS FO and Coach, I won't be surprised with the constant level of discontent then either.

Hopefully, but thought so with JJ and Satan and hoped so with Wannstache and Cameron, so who can fault anyone from hesitating to reach for the purple koolaid, knowing it's been tartly tainted in the past?

How many of you have applied for a coaching job in the NFL?

Good point, but having interviewed, evaluated and hired people over many years for different organizational functions, I'd think not only twice, but 3 or 4 times before ever hiring someone characterized by advanced age, inactivity and outmoded philosophy, who's been fired several times for the same criticisms and throws up brightred flags as being out-of-step. You don't need to have a pigskin hide to make those kinds of judgments; as a matter of fact, sometimes an outside, non-partisan perspective is more reliable in seeing the forest from the trees.

How many of you have secured a job coaching in the NFL?

Probably not too many, however the more pertinent question is:
"how many in the NFL are tired, recycled, out of step coaches who should never have been hired,, might be miscast or in over their heads due to nepotism and cronyism... and could well be a detriment to their teams?"


Apparently the chair, the door, the car and the drive to the closest NFL team is all that separates you from your next job. Those interviews are elusive creatures, aren't they?

Yah, and you believed the "Powers that Be," and our Pentagon Generals about those WMDs also since they would know and always have your best interests at heart? Such blind obeisance in deferring to a higher power because they know things you don't, or failure to question authority because of their exalted stature undermines accountability and throws every system of Checks and Balances right out the window. Just wondering how many big shiny bridges you've owned?

or to succinctly sum up why such criticism, so long as it's objective is often justified:

"You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows!"
-Bob Dylan, Subterranean Homesick Blues


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