Herbert is going to shine in practice and workouts - the guy is a prototype of physical skills at QB. That’s never been in question.
With the apparent improvement from Herbert, since leaving Oregon; its beginning to look like he was held back at the college level, by his coaches. Herbert's best may be in front of him, with pro coaching?
Hump is not coming out...
Bummer news I know.
no but it might keep a couple of teams from thinking they have to jump in front of us for Tua. Chargers for example could feel they can stay at 6 and take Herbert instead of spending picks to move up for tuaNice to hear that he is having success. However, I don't think there is anything that he could do in this short week of practice that would bump him ahead of Tua in my opinion.
That's my predictionno but it might keep a couple of teams from thinking they have to jump in front of us for Tua. Chargers for example could feel they can stay at 6 and take Herbert instead of spending picks to move up for tua
Biadasz regressed this year and is limited athletically, not going to be able to do much more than operate within the phone booth. Not sure he was ever in the #18 discussion IMO. Humphrey is young and super talented so his ceiling was very high.
Kushenberry is relatively new to the position, never really called out blocking assignments or identified defensive markers. He is having a great week and displaying his potential. But is still very raw, his hand technique is inconsistent, inst great climbing to the 2nd level, and isnt really the best drive blocker at this time though he does have sufficient strength so it feels more like a technique thing. And there is a lot to learn for the position in the NFL. Potential wise he is late 1st round which IMO between 25-45 is kind of the sweet spot for the best Centers in a draft.
You mean other than the fact that he isn't made of glass?Nice to hear that he is having success. However, I don't think there is anything that he could do in this short week of practice that would bump him ahead of Tua in my opinion.
Great point about smallish QB's. The facts are that over the history of the NFL smaller QB's struggle for lots of reasons. However, on the positive side I think the modern NFL has schemes that are more friendly to smaller QB's and guys that used to not be able to make it can now have more success.You mean other than the fact that he isn't made of glass?
I admit, a healthy Tua may be a better PROSPECT, but what good is a top 10 QB if he's on IR more than available? He is too small for my liking, even before the hip.
Before you hit me with the Brees/Wilson examples, if you have to go back nearly 2 decades to make a point, they are outliers, not the norm.
That may be true to some extent. Sometimes it means a QB has to learn how to use "lanes" (Brees), but generally the smaller guys like Murray, or even Wilson, for example, rely on mobility and scrambling.Great point about smallish QB's. The facts are that over the history of the NFL smaller QB's struggle for lots of reasons. However, on the positive side I think the modern NFL has schemes that are more friendly to smaller QB's and guys that used to not be able to make it can now have more success.
Right. And while I like a lot of things about Tua, that right there is my concern. He is not going to move around like Wilson. So if he has to play in more of a Brees mode that is going to force him to make reads ultra fast he may well be able to do it, but with our OL he wont get as much time as Brees does.That may be true to some extent. Sometimes it means a QB has to learn how to use "lanes" (Brees), but generally the smaller guys like Murray, or even Wilson, for example, rely on mobility and scrambling.
I know nobody wants Tua doing that.
If I recall, he never missed a game due to injury until this year. In fact, he played through injuries like a broken finger and sprained knee that would have side-lined many. Without the hip, we would probably be talking about how tough he is(and judging his recovery so far, we may want to anyway).You mean other than the fact that he isn't made of glass?
I admit, a healthy Tua may be a better PROSPECT, but what good is a top 10 QB if he's on IR more than available? He is too small for my liking, even before the hip.
Before you hit me with the Brees/Wilson examples, if you have to go back nearly 2 decades to make a point, they are outliers, not the norm.
I thought the finger happened in spring practice, but broken fingers happen. I wouldn't judge based on that.If I recall, he never missed a game due to injury until this year. In fact, he played through injuries like a broken finger and sprained knee that would have side-lined many. Without the hip, we would probably be talking about how tough he is(and judging his recovery so far, we may want to anyway).