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  1. hoops

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    heads should roll if they cant execute this at minimum from a personnel stand point. that part should be a given
     
  2. Lovethefish

    Lovethefish Well-Known Member

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    I really don’t see any scenario I. Which heads will roll before 2021.
    This is basic sh-t.
    We are cutting vets. Drafting/ signing cheap and young. We won’t know if our TBD QB is any good for 2-3years.
    We won’t really be able to examine anything for 2 seasons.
     
  3. meatpardle

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    Depends what you mean by 'everyone'. If it's the mouthbreathers on facebook and youtube comments sections then a game or two.

    Anyone with half a brain cell will actually base their judgement of the performances and decisions made ina balanced and logical manner, regardless of the result. It's possible to coach well and not win, but it's also possible to underperform even when there are no expectations (Hue Jackson for example).
     
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    phinfan40353 Scout Team

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    If we are developing correctly, we should see the DL and OL starting to develop and becoming strengths of the team.

    If if the wins aren't there, we should be seeing the pieces developing for the next year. Those Year 1 and Year 2 pieces quietly set the stage for success in the future. The next two drafts decide a lot for us. They are key building blocks.

    Everyone remember the draft that built JT and ZT's defense? That D caught fire quick because the talent was identified up and down those drafts. You can't just hit on a 1st or 2nd rounder. You need to hit early and often to really change your fortunes. There are no throw away picks when building a team.
     
  5. KBEE

    KBEE Well-Known Member

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    How much worse will we actually be next year? This years offense and defense were pretty pathetic. I'm actually expecting a better defense the first year just on coaching change alone. Offense will be unsettle until we find our QB.
     
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    truedolfan57 A True Fan

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    A good chunk of people on this forum will scream their heads off if the team wins more than 3 games.
     
  7. dolphintodd

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    I don't understand why everyone thinks we are going to be terrible. Gase called absolutely terrible plays, right? Our starting QB wasn't healthy the last 3 years.... and now all of a sudden we are going to be tanking vying for the #1 pick? Welcome to loserheaven.com
     
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    I don’t know why but I can see the TANk attempt failing and stumbling into a solid season. Then after bungling losing, we trade the house for the top pick to select a QB
     
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    Michael Scott Thank you, Kap. Finheaven VIP

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    Only way I scream for heads to start rolling is if we start pacing for a 5+ win season. Keep it 1-3 and Flores and the rest of the staff should get bonuses.

    Edit: this is assuming the plan is to get our QB in the 2020 draft. If we draft a QB in the first round this year then you root for success from the get go.
     
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  10. CedarPhin

    CedarPhin King of the Winter Carnival Finheaven VIP Donator

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    Take a Seahawks approach to the rooster from when Carroll first got there...
     
  11. Digital

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    Just my opinion, but here goes.

    If you win between 5 and 8 games, you didn't tank, you just had a bad season. Tanking isn't hard, but we want somewhere between 1 and 4 wins total, ideally culminating in not going winless but still getting the 1st overall pick, or at a minimum a top 3 overall pick. If you're actively trying to tank and you can't do this … yeah, you're going to have major pushback, because you probably can't control stuff as a coach or aren't sharp enough to figure out how to move the levers. The goals are crystal clear here and every team you play against is TRYING to help you accomplish your goals, so yeah … don't screw this up.

    If you're tanking there is a pretty easy to figure out plan for it, and it doesn't take too much thought. Yes, you get a putrid QB and you keep the faith in him as he fails, and when the team loses faith in him, you keep starting him. You DON'T draft a new QB or yank the guy when he starts doing poorly or look for FA options at QB. You want a Curtis Painter … good fella and guarantees you the top pick! That formula worked like butter for the Indianapolis Colts in their "Suck for Luck" campaign … just follow that blueprint! Oh yeah, don't do what the Dolphins did and go from winning the "Suck for Luck" sweepstakes with a 0-7 record to going on a late season meaningless push to win 6 of your last 9, finishing 6-10 and ending up falling all the way down to the 8th overall draft pick … because that's laughably bad failsauce and a tremendous missed opportunity. Luck may not have panned out like we wanted, but he was a phenomenal prospect.

    Then you go with veterans who are journeymen roleplayers specifically targeted to be guys who do exactly what the coach wants, are fundamentally sound, true grinders, and leaders in the locker room to teach the youngsters how to do things right. Then you purge the team of all expensive salary cap players and all older veterans with large salaries. You flood the team with youth. This is the time to take risks on LOTS of players who have high potential but are raw. Most will not pan out … and make you lose games, and you can get rid of them in the offseason. But you just might find a gem or two that you can develop that really helps the team.

    Delay gratification. Trade draft picks today for higher draft picks tomorrow. So those guys will not help you now, and you may lose games, which is the plan. Then in 2020 you have a high draft pick every round. But, the next year or two you'll have a team that is full of young talent growing together with their peak years syncing.

    In 2019 you start building the team around the QB who isn't yet here, which means drafting and developing good young OL. Make sure that when he comes you have a solid run game so he can lean on it. And if you can get top talent in the interim, don't skip those opportunities for an elite pass rushers.

    Then when you finally get that top notch QB in 2020, you are in a good position to rise from the ashes and become a good team. It's not that hard, because every team you play wants to beat you, and the coach is in control of whether he lets that happen or stands in it's way.
     
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  13. Smith21

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    I think we will draft BPA not BPA that's also a need. We wont sign the Wallace or Suh. We wont try to lose. We just will lose. We have a few gadget players on offense and a few pieces on defense. It can be a decent season if we find a Russell Wilson or Tom Brady but the odds aren't good. Odds are itll be a 1 year stop gap qb who will lose games for us on accident... teddy bridgewater? Kizer? Who knows but he better get the ball out to grant or amendola... lol
     
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    Full rebuild? I’m giving the guy 5 years.
     
  15. BobDole

    BobDole Suck it Trebek Finheaven VIP

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