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Here’s Where Tannehill Has Wider Disparity Than Any Afc Qb And Why That’s Worrisome

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There are a couple of final frontiers that Tannehill simply must conquer: Leading a team into a playoffs (he missed the final three games and postseason game in 2016), and improving his play on the road, where his numbers have ranged from mediocre to dismal, depending on the game.
Tannehill this season has a 128.0 passer rating at home (second behind only Drew Brees), compared with just 85.3 on the road. That differential of 42.7 is the second biggest among NFL starting quarterbacks, behind only the Rams’ Jared Goff, who’s 124.5 at home and 78.9 on the road.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article222441960.html
 
OK. That’s our homework.

Now if we can just get people to watch the game critically for an honest assessment.

Is it THill failing? Is it our D? Our O Line? Our play calling? Our WRs?

Let’s really watch, with an objective mind!
 
The Herald could only write so many pieces on the miracle play last week and had to find something to write.

What a novel concept...QB's and teams do better at home. Who'da thunk :hclap:

The guys killing it since coming back. Can't that just be a good thing without finding something to piss on.
 
The Herald could only write so many pieces on the miracle play last week and had to find something to write.

What a novel concept...QB's and teams do better at home. Who'da thunk :hclap:

The guys killing it since coming back. Can't that just be a good thing without finding something to piss on.
We win in Minny and that’s the end of that talk.
 
The dudes not perfect, but the criticism should focus on flaws in his game, like pocket presence, 3rd down conversion efficiency, YPA. Using wins as a measuring stick for how good a QB is...way too many variables. Like how does the offensive line efficiency look home v away during his career
 
It's not just Tannehill on the road it's the entire team, including coaches.

Unfortunately, That's part of the burden of being the team's Captain.
You have to elevate your game that much more to preverbally "make-up" for your teams deficiency on the road.

That "making-up" comes in a few forms:

1) The one that most people think about is you, the QB, justing playing better.
2) The intangibles that most don't' think about is on the sidelines: How are you helping to keep your entire team focus?
2a) Are you in the faces of the guys that need it? Are you on the coaches to see things and call a cleaner game? etc
2b) or Are you on the sidelines quiet. Hoping things will work out?
 
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There are a couple of final frontiers that Tannehill simply must conquer: Leading a team into a playoffs (he missed the final three games and postseason game in 2016), and improving his play on the road, where his numbers have ranged from mediocre to dismal, depending on the game.
Tannehill this season has a 128.0 passer rating at home (second behind only Drew Brees), compared with just 85.3 on the road. That differential of 42.7 is the second biggest among NFL starting quarterbacks, behind only the Rams’ Jared Goff, who’s 124.5 at home and 78.9 on the road.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article222441960.html

So...is the o-line sorry away and good at home. Or is the o-line sorry at home AND away?

I want to put this "everything has to be perfect" narrative surrounding Tannehill on the front page...especially when I see defenders in Rivers' face on every play, and he beats KC on the road...and when I see Russell WIlson win games with George Fant (a power foward on the Western Kentucky basketball team 3 years ago) at RT.
 
So...is the o-line sorry away and good at home. Or is the o-line sorry at home AND away?

I want to put this "everything has to be perfect" narrative surrounding Tannehill on the front page...especially when I see defenders in Rivers' face on every play, and he beats KC on the road...and when I see Russell WIlson win games with George Fant (a power foward on the Western Kentucky basketball team 3 years ago) at RT.


Let me add this on the front page. Tannehill throws those two ugly picks on the road vs kc that rivers threw miamis not winning that game. Cause there isn’t any top 10 defense coming to the rescue keeping us in it.

And Russell Wilson’s Seattle o line leads the league leading rushing offense in football. And it isn’t even the qbs legs doing the heavy lifting this year.
 
So...is the o-line sorry away and good at home. Or is the o-line sorry at home AND away?

I want to put this "everything has to be perfect" narrative surrounding Tannehill on the front page...especially when I see defenders in Rivers' face on every play, and he beats KC on the road...and when I see Russell WIlson win games with George Fant (a power foward on the Western Kentucky basketball team 3 years ago) at RT.


I mean Thill got sacked 4 times on Sunday and beat the patriots and put a 150 something passer rating. I don't think the oline was perfect by any stretch of the imagination. He hurt the ankle in the second quarter and came back in the second half and played well. Again far from perfect. But keep banging that drum in your head that people said "everything needs to be perfect".
 
If we look at the road games, some were close going into the 4th quarter. Often we pressed and had meltdowns trying to close out the game. This is no reason or excuse, but simply more a function of desperation trying to win hurting one's statistics. Taken a game at a time, everyone agrees, the heck with the statistics--just try to win the dang game! But 13 or so games into the season, people kinda lose sight of that, and start looking at those aggregate statistics. Sure, throwing a Hail Mary is going to hurt a QB's statistics. He is likely to get intercepted and will at least get an incomplete pass most of the time. But with 2 second left in the game, down by 5, it's still a good decision.

Statistics are very relevant metrics to help understand performance. But football is all about situational play. It is a poor statistical play to take a knee to end a game, or to stay in-bounds to keep the clock running rather than a RB gaining an extra yard. But situationally, these may be good plays. I'm a big fan of statistics, but they rarely tell the complete story. Holistically, watching the games tells the most. My thoughts having watched Tannehill and the Dolphins on the road is this--We have only found our groove in spurts. We often find ourselves chasing the game late, pressing, and that leads to poor play. It's not that we can't play well on the road, but we seem less consistent.

If we want to make the playoffs, that consistency--both on offense and defense working together and playing complimentary football--needs to surface. If we win out and go 10-6, I firmly believe we will be in the playoffs. If we win 2 of 3, we have a shot, but it is a slim one, IMHO. Anything less than 2 wins and we're done for sure. So, this Minnesota game is a "must-win game."
 
I want to put this "everything has to be perfect" narrative surrounding Tannehill on the front page...especially when I see defenders in Rivers' face on every play, and he beats KC on the road..


Big difference between “everything has to be perfect” and lets hope things arent completely broken. But then, you know that and are just being you.

If that were the Dolphins and RT in that EXACT game at KC except the 2 pt conversion failed, you would be all over this board in your ususl manner spouting nonsense about how RT failed once again, his INTs, the sacks, etc...

Your takes are ridiculous and tiresome, and expose you as someone who really doesnt understand the game.

PS, did you see that play when Rivers had a defender barreling down on him and he cringed, braced, and threw a weak ball interception? i love Rivers, but i was thinking how RT wouldn’t have flinched.

nah, you probably didnt process that as it didnt squeeze into your absurdly narrow perspective.
 
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I can’t wait until we have the next topic to keep going back and forth on each other about besides -Ryan.

Unless he get hurts- he is the QB for the Dolphins- until or unless we get another player to win and take the job from him.

Lightening Rod.
 
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