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There are so many forums and comments on here about what we should do to make the 2009 Miami Dolphins better than we were last year that I felt the need to remind some of you about keys to becoming a championship team.

1) This is the most important thing that must be done and realized. WASTING AND TRADING AWAY DRAFT PICKS IS A TRAGICALLY HORRIBLE DECISION!! I say this with emphasis for a reason. The great teams, the teams that make true runs at super bowls every year do not trade away their draft picks and instead get players through the draft. Many people on here are all excited about trading this pick and that pick away for players such as Boldin especially. Giving up high round picks such as first rounders and more is not the way to build a championship team. We must not forget the follies of the many lost 1st and 2nd round picks of our recent history.

2) If a team needs veteran presence or pro-bowl caliber presence then the only way to get them is through free agency. Free agency is the only way we should be considering about picking up players that are not in the draft, minus those that are released of course. Picking up a few key free agent acquisitions every offseason is very important but lets remember not to get too greedy.

3) Do not over spend. This is another huge factor when getting players and acquiring players. Our salary cap is something that always needs to be considered, including whether we francise tag players (like Carey), or just sign players in general who are not worth the salaries they are given. A good example of this was the signing of Wilford and the money we lost in that deal.

4) Get players that fit our system and not players that wont work in a 3-4 defense for example. This is pretty self explanatory but key for many reasons. Getting pro bowl players and big name players is great but when they do not fit our system then often we waste money. Sometimes a less known player that fits into the system is alot better then a known player. We must remember Fasano and Aiken when thinking about this. Oh and we cant forget Channing (a player that is IMO just a product of a system and not worth a big time contract).

5) Depth. Depth is a key factor when contending for a superbowl because one must always remember that unfortunately there will be injuries along the way and we need to have players that can step in. Secondly depth is great for having secure kick off coverage and special teams (something that we often lacked last year). Being able to give players rest is something that cannot be over looked in this league.

6) Finally and this could be the most important and maybe most obvious one of all but I must state it anyways. Building championship teams, teams that are good for years are first built around the OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE LINES. Having big play recievers, running backs, etc is nice but means nothing without solid lines. As a rebuilding team I feel it most important to secure a young and talented line to enable us many years of enjoyable football.

Those are just a few things I wanted to remind some of you as the offseason goes on, things that I beleive have helped Parcels do what he has done for so many years. I like you would love to have all these great players that are possible but before we get too excited about them we should seriously think about the pros and cons of each decision we make. Ultimately this has nothing to do with our decision, but we must always consider the above rules before the Dolphins truthfully become the contenders that everyone on the forum wants.
 
awesome read.

i think that those are the exact things parcells is doing at the moment. the man has turned around a few other teams and i firmly believe in him
 
There are so many forums and comments on here about what we should do to make the 2009 Miami Dolphins better than we were last year that I felt the need to remind some of you about keys to becoming a championship team.

1) This is the most important thing that must be done and realized. WASTING AND TRADING AWAY DRAFT PICKS IS A TRAGICALLY HORRIBLE DECISION!! I say this with emphasis for a reason. The great teams, the teams that make true runs at super bowls every year do not trade away their draft picks and instead get players through the draft. Many people on here are all excited about trading this pick and that pick away for players such as Boldin especially. Giving up high round picks such as first rounders and more is not the way to build a championship team. We must not forget the follies of the many lost 1st and 2nd round picks of our recent history.

2) If a team needs veteran presence or pro-bowl caliber presence then the only way to get them is through free agency. Free agency is the only way we should be considering about picking up players that are not in the draft, minus those that are released of course. Picking up a few key free agent acquisitions every offseason is very important but lets remember not to get too greedy.

3) Do not over spend. This is another huge factor when getting players and acquiring players. Our salary cap is something that always needs to be considered, including whether we francise tag players (like Carey), or just sign players in general who are not worth the salaries they are given. A good example of this was the signing of Wilford and the money we lost in that deal.

4) Get players that fit our system and not players that wont work in a 3-4 defense for example. This is pretty self explanatory but key for many reasons. Getting pro bowl players and big name players is great but when they do not fit our system then often we waste money. Sometimes a less known player that fits into the system is alot better then a known player. We must remember Fasano and Aiken when thinking about this. Oh and we cant forget Channing (a player that is IMO just a product of a system and not worth a big time contract).

5) Depth. Depth is a key factor when contending for a superbowl because one must always remember that unfortunately there will be injuries along the way and we need to have players that can step in. Secondly depth is great for having secure kick off coverage and special teams (something that we often lacked last year). Being able to give players rest is something that cannot be over looked in this league.

6) Finally and this could be the most important and maybe most obvious one of all but I must state it anyways. Building championship teams, teams that are good for years are first built around the OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE LINES. Having big play recievers, running backs, etc is nice but means nothing without solid lines. As a rebuilding team I feel it most important to secure a young and talented line to enable us many years of enjoyable football.

Those are just a few things I wanted to remind some of you as the offseason goes on, things that I beleive have helped Parcels do what he has done for so many years. I like you would love to have all these great players that are possible but before we get too excited about them we should seriously think about the pros and cons of each decision we make. Ultimately this has nothing to do with our decision, but we must always consider the above rules before the Dolphins truthfully become the contenders that everyone on the forum wants.
Thank you so much for this! As a current HOG, I would like to accept this post and especially the underlined words as an award of sorts.

This means so much to our kind and would like to thank everyone who supported us (that means you coach D. Thanks for always giving us water before the skinny guys in practice) and am happy to hear that people are actually realizing that a linemen is the most important position in football. QB, WR, RB, LB, DB... they all need us. Without us, the small guys are useless.

Again, thank you for giving us the respect we are due. We would also like to take the time out to discount this idea that DEs like JT are actually linemen. They are nothing more than blitzing OLBs that snuck up a bit closer to the line.

Love and Respect fellas and go hogs!

1, 2, 3. *** kicking silver backs!
 
Outstanding read,and i wholeheartedly agree with you on OL&DL...we have IMO a GREAT Cornerstone in which to build an EFFINLY AWESOME O-Line off of in our PRO BOWL LEFT TACKLE JAKE LONG...we'll get it done though,we'll get it done...
 
There are so many forums and comments on here about what we should do to make the 2009 Miami Dolphins better than we were last year that I felt the need to remind some of you about keys to becoming a championship team.

Because you've built so many?

1) This is the most important thing that must be done and realized. WASTING AND TRADING AWAY DRAFT PICKS IS A TRAGICALLY HORRIBLE DECISION!! I say this with emphasis for a reason. The great teams, the teams that make true runs at super bowls every year do not trade away their draft picks and instead get players through the draft. Many people on here are all excited about trading this pick and that pick away for players such as Boldin especially. Giving up high round picks such as first rounders and more is not the way to build a championship team. We must not forget the follies of the many lost 1st and 2nd round picks of our recent history.
Really? How did the Patriots get Welker? Not by the draft. There is no set law on what will work and what won't work. For every bad trade, I can point to 5 #1 round busts. If my mom makes a bad call on a Miami Dolphins trade of a pick or picks, it does not mean that every GM will. Can I remind you that we traded away picks to get Fasano and, Adyole, two starters this year?

2) If a team needs veteran presence or pro-bowl caliber presence then the only way to get them is through free agency. Free agency is the only way we should be considering about picking up players that are not in the draft, minus those that are released of course. Picking up a few key free agent acquisitions every offseason is very important but lets remember not to get too greedy.
Why? Why could we not trade for a Pro Bowler? What difference does it make if we get a great player through the draft, FA, or trade? We still have the player. I agree you want to give away as little as possible, but sometimes you gotta spend money to make money.

3) Do not over spend. This is another huge factor when getting players and acquiring players. Our salary cap is something that always needs to be considered, including whether we francise tag players (like Carey), or just sign players in general who are not worth the salaries they are given. A good example of this was the signing of Wilford and the money we lost in that deal.
But what happens if we don't get our guys re-signed that we need? What happens if we draft a bust in round 1 and have no competant ORT or whichever position? You said the only way to get a pro bowler was through FA. We'll have to overpay for a Probowler through FA.

4) Get players that fit our system and not players that wont work in a 3-4 defense for example. This is pretty self explanatory but key for many reasons. Getting pro bowl players and big name players is great but when they do not fit our system then often we waste money. Sometimes a less known player that fits into the system is alot better then a known player. We must remember Fasano and Aiken when thinking about this. Oh and we cant forget Channing (a player that is IMO just a product of a system and not worth a big time contract).
I think the FO's got this one under control I doubt they'll target a guy they think won't work in the system. Who are we going to get in FA that we won't overpay for that will become the backer that Crowder was?

5) Depth. Depth is a key factor when contending for a superbowl because one must always remember that unfortunately there will be injuries along the way and we need to have players that can step in. Secondly depth is great for having secure kick off coverage and special teams (something that we often lacked last year). Being able to give players rest is something that cannot be over looked in this league.
That's nice, but say we let Carey get away, draft a bust at #25, and don't overpay in FA? We've got no ORT, no running game, no hope. Depth starts at #1.

6) Finally and this could be the most important and maybe most obvious one of all but I must state it anyways. Building championship teams, teams that are good for years are first built around the OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE LINES. Having big play recievers, running backs, etc is nice but means nothing without solid lines. As a rebuilding team I feel it most important to secure a young and talented line to enable us many years of enjoyable football.

Agree.

Those are just a few things I wanted to remind some of you as the offseason goes on, things that I beleive have helped Parcels do what he has done for so many years. I like you would love to have all these great players that are possible but before we get too excited about them we should seriously think about the pros and cons of each decision we make. Ultimately this has nothing to do with our decision, but we must always consider the above rules before the Dolphins truthfully become the contenders that everyone on the forum wants.

Parcells has built through a mix of drafting, tradeing and, free agency. There are more ways than one to skin a cat, and, I trust PArcells knows that.
 
The formula is simple!!!!!

- Get Dre Bly
- Get Bart Scott
- Get Fred Taylor (trade Ronnie Brown)
- Trade John Beck
- Cut Satele
 
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1) This is the most important thing that must be done and realized. WASTING AND TRADING AWAY DRAFT PICKS IS A TRAGICALLY HORRIBLE DECISION!! I say this with emphasis for a reason. The great teams, the teams that make true runs at super bowls every year do not trade away their draft picks and instead get players through the draft. Many people on here are all excited about trading this pick and that pick away for players such as Boldin especially. Giving up high round picks such as first rounders and more is not the way to build a championship team. We must not forget the follies of the many lost 1st and 2nd round picks of our recent history.

if every GM was Dave Wandstedt this would be true

the thread of truth here is "if a guy is worth trading for then why is his team trying to trade him?"

in the right situation an NFL vet is a known qty(good or bad) while a drafted college player is an unknown qty. sometimes a bird in the hand.....
 
Umm , why would you trade Ronnie Brown for Fred Taylor?

I wouldn't.....

Besides, that gem Fred Taylor is ripe for the picking on the Free Agent market, we wouldn't have to trade for him if we were dumb enough to actually desire him instead of Brown.
 
Because you've built so many?


Really? How did the Patriots get Welker? Not by the draft. There is no set law on what will work and what won't work. For every bad trade, I can point to 5 #1 round busts. If my mom makes a bad call on a Miami Dolphins trade of a pick or picks, it does not mean that every GM will. Can I remind you that we traded away picks to get Fasano and, Adyole, two starters this year?


Why? Why could we not trade for a Pro Bowler? What difference does it make if we get a great player through the draft, FA, or trade? We still have the player. I agree you want to give away as little as possible, but sometimes you gotta spend money to make money.


But what happens if we don't get our guys re-signed that we need? What happens if we draft a bust in round 1 and have no competant ORT or whichever position? You said the only way to get a pro bowler was through FA. We'll have to overpay for a Probowler through FA.


I think the FO's got this one under control I doubt they'll target a guy they think won't work in the system. Who are we going to get in FA that we won't overpay for that will become the backer that Crowder was?


That's nice, but say we let Carey get away, draft a bust at #25, and don't overpay in FA? We've got no ORT, no running game, no hope. Depth starts at #1.



Agree.



Parcells has built through a mix of drafting, tradeing and, free agency. There are more ways than one to skin a cat, and, I trust PArcells knows that.


:rolleyes2:
 
Because you've built so many?


Really? How did the Patriots get Welker? Not by the draft. There is no set law on what will work and what won't work. For every bad trade, I can point to 5 #1 round busts. If my mom makes a bad call on a Miami Dolphins trade of a pick or picks, it does not mean that every GM will. Can I remind you that we traded away picks to get Fasano and, Adyole, two starters this year?


Why? Why could we not trade for a Pro Bowler? What difference does it make if we get a great player through the draft, FA, or trade? We still have the player. I agree you want to give away as little as possible, but sometimes you gotta spend money to make money.


But what happens if we don't get our guys re-signed that we need? What happens if we draft a bust in round 1 and have no competant ORT or whichever position? You said the only way to get a pro bowler was through FA. We'll have to overpay for a Probowler through FA.


I think the FO's got this one under control I doubt they'll target a guy they think won't work in the system. Who are we going to get in FA that we won't overpay for that will become the backer that Crowder was?


That's nice, but say we let Carey get away, draft a bust at #25, and don't overpay in FA? We've got no ORT, no running game, no hope. Depth starts at #1.



Agree.



Parcells has built through a mix of drafting, tradeing and, free agency. There are more ways than one to skin a cat, and, I trust PArcells knows that.

I may not agree with every single thing you say, but wasn't it nice for this guy to come down from Mt. Olympus and take the time to set us all straight.
 
R.Moss seemed to be a great trade, let alone Welker is a great part of their offense, the Eli Manning trade worked out well, the entire Dallas of the 90's destiny was based off one great trade. GB traded for Farve, SF traded for Young when they had Montana.
There's a million ways to skin a cat, you just have to figure out what works for you.
 
Because you've built so many?


Really? How did the Patriots get Welker? Not by the draft. There is no set law on what will work and what won't work. For every bad trade, I can point to 5 #1 round busts. If my mom makes a bad call on a Miami Dolphins trade of a pick or picks, it does not mean that every GM will. Can I remind you that we traded away picks to get Fasano and, Adyole, two starters this year?

Yup we did trade to get Fasano and Adyole but we gave up nothing (thats not wasting a pick). Theres a big difference between trading away a 6th round pick for players that have produces at the pro level then giving away 1st and second round picks. And as far as welker, maybe you didnt watch that year but the patriots didnt win the superbowl that year and the years they did they never traded away for anything major.

But what happens if we don't get our guys re-signed that we need? What happens if we draft a bust in round 1 and have no competant ORT or whichever position? You said the only way to get a pro bowler was through FA. We'll have to overpay for a Probowler through FA.

This is alot of what ifs my friend, thats all im gunna say here. What I said is just a way to create a championship, obviously in every situation there are going to what ifs i mean thats always a posibility. I did not say it was the only way to get a probowler btw, I said it was the BEST and SMARTEST way, and the way we should do it.


I think the FO's got this one under control I doubt they'll target a guy they think won't work in the system. Who are we going to get in FA that we won't overpay for that will become the backer that Crowder was?

This cannot be known bc we do not really know how great crowder is unless he isnt in the system and someone has replaced him. Now ur next step may be to point to the single game this year that he didnt play but the facts remain that it was only one game. We could put some other average or sub-average linebacker in this position and see him record 100 tackles too.

That's nice, but say we let Carey get away, draft a bust at #25, and don't overpay in FA? We've got no ORT, no running game, no hope. Depth starts at #1.

And here are more what ifs. Unfortuantely you can back up ur statement with what ifs bc its not a very good argument technique. What ifs are always possibilities and thus you use probability to find the best way and most effective way to create a team. Of course outliers exist thats always a possibility.
 
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