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If he was a 1st round pick?
If he threw for 4000 yards to people not named moss?
IF the only reason he went to a small school instead of Florida or FSU was becuase he wanted to stay true to UCF, the first people who accepted him?

If he ran a 4.5 40 and benched over 400 pounds, a far superb athlete than Donovan Mcnabb?

Randy Moss was actually counterproductive. While he had game changing skills, he would jog 80 percent of his plays and WOULDNT GO OVER THE MIDDLE. IMAGINE IF HE DID?

Peyton Manning has Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne, arguably the best duo of receivers ever, and Brandon Stokley, a very good 3rd receiver? Is he a product of them, oh and of Tom Mora, the best offensive mind in football? Oh, and of always having a very athletic tight end, pollard, clark?


Say what you want to about him, but when its all said and done, Daunte will have a superbowl ring on his finger. He has the heart of a champion thats why it took him a year to get back to 50 percent rather than two years to the form he has right now. He worked his butt off to get where he is now and i dont know anyone who could tear 3 ligaments and return to their elite form in less than a span of a year. It took willis mcgahee more than 2 years to do that.


IF youre in this league, youre not a product of anyone, it means you are a great football player and for daunte to do it without moss he has shown that he is an elite nfl qb.
 
Hes not a product of Moss nor was Moss a product of Culpepper. They were both products of Scott Linehan.
 
AFRO11 said:
If he was a 1st round pick?
If he threw for 4000 yards to people not named moss?
IF the only reason he went to a small school instead of Florida or FSU was becuase he wanted to stay true to UCF, the first people who accepted him?

If he ran a 4.5 40 and benched over 400 pounds, a far superb athlete than Donovan Mcnabb?

Randy Moss was actually counterproductive. While he had game changing skills, he would jog 80 percent of his plays and WOULDNT GO OVER THE MIDDLE. IMAGINE IF HE DID?

Peyton Manning has Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne, arguably the best duo of receivers ever, and Brandon Stokley, a very good 3rd receiver? Is he a product of them, oh and of Tom Mora, the best offensive mind in football? Oh, and of always having a very athletic tight end, pollard, clark?


Say what you want to about him, but when its all said and done, Daunte will have a superbowl ring on his finger. He has the heart of a champion thats why it took him a year to get back to 50 percent rather than two years to the form he has right now. He worked his butt off to get where he is now and i dont know anyone who could tear 3 ligaments and return to their elite form in less than a span of a year. It took willis mcgahee more than 2 years to do that.


IF youre in this league, youre not a product of anyone, it means you are a great football player and for daunte to do it without moss he has shown that he is an elite nfl qb.
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The reason he went UCF was because he didn't test well enough to get into a major university. He isn't that smart, but a great player non the less.
 
Alot of his biggest throws were heaves in Moss' direction that Moss was able to go up and either outjump or outmuscle the defender.
 
Pagan said:
Alot of his biggest throws were heaves in Moss' direction that Moss was able to go up and either outjump or outmuscle the defender.
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As a Lions fan, I saw a lot of Culpepper.

Those "heaves" were usually right on the money.

Moss beat dudes with speed most of the time and Culpepper put it right where it needed to be.

It made me mad and nauseous at the same time.
 
Didn't DC also throw to a Carter guy, only caught TDs or something?

That theory would also mean Montana and Young suck because Rice made them??
 
Captain Lou said:
The reason he went UCF was because he didn't test well enough to get into a major university. He isn't that smart, but a great player non the less.
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Yea he did. UCF coaches helped him out with his grades while recruiting him and they got him to the point where the big Florida schools would take him. He decided to be loyal and go to UCF.
 
NJL52 said:
Yea he did. UCF coaches helped him out with his grades while recruiting him and they got him to the point where the big Florida schools would take him. He decided to be loyal and go to UCF.
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Don't know about UCF, however FSU stopped recruiting due to his grades.

BTW:If UCF "arranged" tutoring for DC, that's a recruiting violation.
 
This "product of" Bull**** gets really old... Moss helped Culpepper, Culpepper had the arm for a Moss....Chris Carter was a phenomenal WR on the other side, and the RB's there could catch.....

The problem isn't no Moss, its just a change of scenery.....

How often do player who've had success leave thier teams, coaches, and systems where they'ed had success and maintain greatness.....?

You guys expecting the Culpepper that was healthy, playing on a different team, with a different coach and cast around him to show up in Miami was just silly......

His MVP season was a long time ago in NFL years.....
 
Culpepper flourished in Minnesota due to the system and not Moss. The same system that we supposedly have here but has apparently failed to really materialize in a form similar to last years. It also doesnt help that we don't have a quality line which can help promote it better.
 
Whitner20 said:
This "product of" Bull**** gets really old... Moss helped Culpepper, Culpepper had the arm for a Moss....Chris Carter was a phenomenal WR on the other side, and the RB's there could catch.....

The problem isn't no Moss, its just a change of scenery.....

How often do player who've had success leave thier teams, coaches, and systems where they'ed had success and maintain greatness.....?

You guys expecting the Culpepper that was healthy, playing on a different team, with a different coach and cast around him to show up in Miami was just silly......

His MVP season was a long time ago in NFL years.....
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Most of the time Culpepper was with the Vikings....they had a good OL. So that's a big part of it.....

Culpepper will need a good OL (good LT is the biggest need), a more vertical passing game, some degree of balanced playcalling (we've been 70/30 pass/run so far this year).........oh.....and he has to be healthy.
 
Breed said:
Most of the time Culpepper was with the Vikings....they had a good OL. So that's a big part of it.....

Culpepper will need a good OL (good LT is the biggest need), a more vertical passing game, some degree of balanced playcalling (we've been 70/30 pass/run so far this year).........oh.....and he has to be healthy.
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They didn't even have consistent RBs in 2004. The Whizenator :lol: (man, that was funny) got him the most with 544yds.

Culpepper himself outrushed every RB but one.

The OL was fantastic. Culpepper had time.

He actually threw a lot of dink passes.

Moss, by the way, wasn't the leading receiver in 2004. That was Burleson.

Take a look, Culpepper spread it around like crazy.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/min2004.htm
 
Captain Lou said:
The reason he went UCF was because he didn't test well enough to get into a major university. He isn't that smart, but a great player non the less.
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kinda, ucf tutored him to get the test scores he needed, then the bigger football schools, uf, fsu, came after him once ucf tutored him but he stayed loyal to ucf
 
That's a fallacy. In his only good year, 2004, Moss didn't even play for ~1/3 of the games.
 
Prophet said:
That's a fallacy. In his only good year, 2004, Moss didn't even play for ~1/3 of the games.
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So now 2004 was his only good year.......

:shakeno:
 
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