How is Gus worse than broken QB's?

[ajajaj]

Plain and simple... How in the world would anyone want a seriously injured QB over Gus?

Now before you bash: (which I know you will do)

I know Gus is not the future.

I know Gus has a low comp. %

I know it is not a popular thought that Gus can take us to the next level.

If Gus redoes his contract making himself affordable, at least to the level of his talent. ( and yes he does have some) Why would anyone want a questionable QB from a team that doesnt' have enough faith in the healing of his injury to re-sign him? This is regarding Breeze and Culpepper.

I'm sure this will get many sarcastic reply's regarding Gus b/c that is the mentality of the group that post on this forum. majority men and most men are sarcastic. I would like a few (if possible) comments and thoughts regarding this.

Thanks

 

[Marc790]

Because broken quarterbacks, depending on the extend of their injuries, get mended. A career-back-up will always be one. A crappy quarterback doesn't get better. There's nothing to mend except this poor daughter's broken heart.

And with that classless comment about his little daughter crying at the game, I'll go back to homework now ...

 

[tylerdolphin]

Stupidest.Post.Ever. Please dont try tell me that Brees isnt an upgrade. Thats absolutly foolish. His injury isnt as bad as you make it out to be. You are bound by Gus love.

 

[ajajaj]

Stupidest.Post.Ever. Please dont try tell me that Brees isnt an upgrade. Thats absolutly foolish. His injury isnt as bad as you mak it out to be.

:confused: what? His injury is very serious. Possibly carreer ending. He will almost definately loose 10 - 15% of his throwing strength, and he won't be able to practice or throw a football at all until close to training camp at best.

How will he be in shape for and stay accurate over the offseason if he can't throw? Look at Pennington, very scimilar situation.

You may be right, he may come back and tear it up. If he is anywhere near his pre-injury form he is a definate upgrade.

Are we at a stage as a team we can take a chance he will be good, and are we gonna throw him the money and take up the cap space needed for that chance?

 

[DiehardPhinsFan]

well, you cant even speel drew brees' name right so u must not know how good he is.....think about the 7 loses we had last year, each one, for the exception of a few (chiefs, bucs) were winnable ballgames, if we would have had drew brees runnin the show, im thinking those other 5 losses would be wins, resulting in a 14-2 season......that may seem a bit high of a record but really look at the final scores, the fins only lost because of failure to execute a few plays...with an experienced qb, those losses will start turning into wins

 

[tylerdolphin]

:confused: what? His injury is very serious. Possibly carreer ending. He will almost definately loose 10 - 15% of his throwing strength, and he won't be able to practice or throw a football at all until close to training camp at best.

How will he be in shape for and stay accurate over the offseason if he can't throw? Look at Pennington, very scimilar situation.

You may be right, he may come back and tear it up. If he is anywhere near his pre-injury form he is a definate upgrade.

Are we at a stage as a team we can take a chance he will be good, and are we gonna throw him the money and take up the cap space needed for that chance?

Penny is NOT a very simialr situation. Two TOTALLY different injuries. Brees injury is not career ending and he will be back to 100% in no time. Brees tore a Labrum, penny torn a rotator cuff. Penny's injury was infinitly more serious to a QB.

 

[ajajaj]

well, you cant even speel drew brees' name right so u must not know how good he is.....think about the 7 loses we had last year, each one, for the exception of a few (chiefs, bucs) were winnable ballgames, if we would have had drew brees runnin the show, im thinking those other 5 losses would be wins, resulting in a 14-2 season......that may seem a bit high of a record but really look at the final scores, the fins only lost because of failure to execute a few plays...with an experienced qb, those losses will start turning into wins

Maybe you would like to give me "speeling lessons":sidelol:

 

[ajajaj]

Penny is NOT a very simialr situation. Two TOTALLY different injuries. Brees injury is not career ending and he will be back to 100% in no time.

Really, where did you hear this?

If you are correct, I completely agree with you.

 

[tylerdolphin]

Really, where did you hear this?

If you are correct, I completely agree with you.

Its only been news for 2 weeks. A labrum is nowhere near as serious as a rotator cuff

 

[Joey 22]

:confused: what? His injury is very serious. Possibly carreer ending. He will almost definately loose 10 - 15% of his throwing strength, and he won't be able to practice or throw a football at all until close to training camp at best.

How will he be in shape for and stay accurate over the offseason if he can't throw? Look at Pennington, very scimilar situation.

You may be right, he may come back and tear it up. If he is anywhere near his pre-injury form he is a definate upgrade.

Are we at a stage as a team we can take a chance he will be good, and are we gonna throw him the money and take up the cap space needed for that chance?

Its an injury that takes at the most 12 weeks to heal, damn he already has like a month of healing and yet he is also ahead of schedule plus he is young,
and NO Frerrotte is in NO WAY a better option than Brees, Culpepper though is probably done he tore his ACL, MCL and the other ligament I cant remember its name all at the same time. Culpepper would be a BIG gamble, I dont think anyone would be willing to trade for him and I surely think he will even be outright cut.

 

[tylerdolphin]

Its an injury that takes at the most 12 weeks to heal, damn he already has like a month of healing and yet he is also ahead of schedule plus he is young,
and NO Frerrotte is in NO WAY a better option than Brees, Culpepper though is probably done he tore his ACL, MCL and the other ligament I cant remember its name all at the same time. Culpepper would be a BIG gamble, I dont think anyone would be willing to trade for him and I surely think he will even be outright cut.

If C-Pep is cut, and we dont get Brees, I think we gamble on him. I dont agree with trading a bunch of picks for C-Pep when we can get Brees for no picks though.

 

[ajajaj]

Its only been news for 2 weeks. A labrum is nowhere near as serious as a rotator cuff

Well, maybe you have better info than I but I've heard it is pretty serious.

The San Francisco Giants' Robb Nen, one of the best relief pitchers in baseball, had off-season surgery in 2002 to "clean up loose particles" in his shoulder. What Nen didn't know is that he had a torn labrum, the fearsome modern baseball injury that strikes down pitchers quickly, stealthily, and painfully. Eighteen months and three surgeries later, Nen is still waiting to throw his next major-league pitch. The leading minds in baseball medicine are flummoxed by the labrum. Doctors can't agree on how to detect a tear, don't know the best way to fix one, and aren't sure why, almost without fail, a torn labrum will destroy a pitcher's career.

Here is a link to the entire story. www.slate.com/id/2100895/

I know this is not baseball, but surely you can draw the line between a pitcher and a QB...

 

[trayphin]

Yeah, but injuries vary in severity....Brees has only had the one sugery and is ahead of schedule for rehabilitation.

 

[Joey 22]

They dont use the same motion, baseball motion is extremely punishing for the shoulder, plus you dont always throw as hard on football as in baseball and finally a QB only plays 16 games a season instead of like 30 with pitchers
plus QBs throw in average 35 times a game, while a pitcher throws in average 120 times per game. BIG DIFFERENCE.

 

[ajajaj]

They dont use the same motion, baseball motion is extremely punishing for the shoulder, plus you dont always throw as hard on football as in baseball and finally a QB only plays 16 games a season instead of like 30 with pitchers
plus QBs throw in average 35 times a game, while a pitcher throws in average 120 times per game. BIG DIFFERENCE.

Yeah, and professional QB's just became good b/c they only throw the ball in games right.

What about practices, all the do is throw all day in practice.

It takes just as hard of a tole on the shoulder as baseball, a football is heavier and requires more shoulder strength to throw.

Anyhow, I guess your answer is Yes we should take the chance and HOPE his Dr. is correct and he has no complications and/or the first time he falls on it, it won't get reinjured and him be out for the season.

It's too bad Gus couldn't be just a little better.