How was Henne
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IMO neither were his fault. He played fine - he was simply asked to be a player he isn't.
And on top of that, they stopped running the ball which meant the Saints knew every down that Henne was out there playing at being Manning.
And on top of that, they stopped running the ball which meant the Saints knew every down that Henne was out there playing at being Manning.
Henne was fine. The first Int Ginn tipped into Sharper's hands and the second the WR ran the route wrong. There were a couple of times he looked a little anxious and I could sense his frustration in the amount of drops, but overall he looked poised under a lot of pressure and played quite well in his 3rd start.
The 1st int was a nice pass that unfortunately hit Ginn in that hands. He bobbled the pass and it was tipped to Sharper who returned it for a TD that shouldn't have been but that's another story.
The 2nd one was technically Henne's fault but it came late in the game on a 4 and 13 play. The Saints blitzed and Henne had someone in his face almost immediately. He passed the ball outside but the retriever ran in and it was an easy int for a TD that sealed the game.
He played better than his stats indicate. He showed good poise and made some good reads. Unfortunately he was hurt by Ginns poor hands. I'm starting to feel more comfortable calling Henne the future but we really need to get him a WR or two. I like the overachievers Bess and Camarillo, but we really need a go to guy that can dominate a game.
The 2nd one was technically Henne's fault but it came late in the game on a 4 and 13 play. The Saints blitzed and Henne had someone in his face almost immediately. He passed the ball outside but the retriever ran in and it was an easy int for a TD that sealed the game.
He played better than his stats indicate. He showed good poise and made some good reads. Unfortunately he was hurt by Ginns poor hands. I'm starting to feel more comfortable calling Henne the future but we really need to get him a WR or two. I like the overachievers Bess and Camarillo, but we really need a go to guy that can dominate a game.
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this game was absolutely not Henne's fault.
I thought he played well, there were alot of dropped passes.
I actually want to see more henne and less wildcat, the jet sweep wasn't workin today..
Henne needs to throw it slower for ginn though, they bounce right off his hands everytime!
I thought he played well, there were alot of dropped passes.
I actually want to see more henne and less wildcat, the jet sweep wasn't workin today..
Henne needs to throw it slower for ginn though, they bounce right off his hands everytime!
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Are you serious? I followed the game on nfl.com so I didn't actually see the play. But really...on 4th and 13 you run PLAY ACTION?! Aye yae yae...
The second INT might have been his fault - we don't know if it was his or the receivers fault.
However, it deserves a little context:
Ginn had previously dropped a 20+ yard ball WIDE OPEN on the sideline perfectly thrown just a few plays before.
Ricky dropped a 5 yard throw to the flat...
Jake Grove got a false start on 3rd and 8 to make it 3rd and 13.
On 4th and 13, Henne was hit with an all-out blitz and basically just threw it up. Not sure if the receiver ran the wrong route or not, but he just threw it up to have *some* chance.
However, it deserves a little context:
Ginn had previously dropped a 20+ yard ball WIDE OPEN on the sideline perfectly thrown just a few plays before.
Ricky dropped a 5 yard throw to the flat...
Jake Grove got a false start on 3rd and 8 to make it 3rd and 13.
On 4th and 13, Henne was hit with an all-out blitz and basically just threw it up. Not sure if the receiver ran the wrong route or not, but he just threw it up to have *some* chance.
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If I remember correclty Ginn was the WR who was running the route on that pick play. Also no one mentioned that before time ran out Ginn dropped a perfect TD pass in the endzone on the final drive. I believe this game Ginn played more scared than any other game he's ever played. I really think the team may need to put Hartlinein as the starter andknock Ginn down to 4th or 5th. Hartline is proving to be our best receiver at this point. I also agree that we need to see less wildcat also. In the 2nd half once we lined up in it the CB's cheated tothe inside ofthe receivers andblitzedat the snap of the ball while there LB's started tackling our pulling gaurds from behind.
Does anybody have a clip of this "lost" drop in the end zone in the garbage drive, I left the room out of pain, and didn't see all the plays in this drive. I'd like to see this other Ginn drop, it just baffles me how bad he was yesterday.
An interesting observation I have been pondering. I wonder if Ginn and Fasano are having trouble adjusting to the velocity.
I feel bad for henne , I think their is too much confusion as to what the heck the future plan is. The wildcat is not going to help more than make this a 500 team.Instead of that play henne get him in grove.let him throw some deep routes and not slants .His development will never happen all the time being rotated for the cat call and not letting him make mistakes.
Its BS to think he is going to develop by playing in this box offence and throwing in pratice.
Let him make mistakes and learn not freaking role him in and out to go .500
I am not a henne supporter even they get another Qb no one is going to develop being protected so much.
2 weeks in a row he is suddenly asked to make a few plays out of the strict rules he plays the whole game by,Not going to happen.
Its BS to think he is going to develop by playing in this box offence and throwing in pratice.
Let him make mistakes and learn not freaking role him in and out to go .500
I am not a henne supporter even they get another Qb no one is going to develop being protected so much.
2 weeks in a row he is suddenly asked to make a few plays out of the strict rules he plays the whole game by,Not going to happen.
Once the offense is functioning without use of the Wildcat, look for that formation to dissapate.
Henne didn't win the game for us, but he sure didn't lose it. It really reminded me of Pennington vs. the Colts, where the ball was put where it needed to be and the receivers just didn't make the plays. Except for with Henne, it was much worse. The Ginn play was actually a spectacular pass in the face of the blitz, and while its possible that a pass like that isn't caught every time, most good NFL receivers would have brought it in and that it ended up as a pick 6.
Henne did have some bad passes in the second half, but the pass blocking wasn't stopping the blitz, and the receivers simply didn't make plays when they were there to make. A 25 or 30 yard pass was thrown just over Ginn's head, and went right through his hands. Another hit him in the chest. On our game-ending drive (after the second pick 6, which was just a desperation pass to begin with and necessarily a bad play by Henne at all), Ginn missed a TD chance in the end zone when he failed to adjust to a ball thrown near his outside shoulder that was actually very well throw. Once again, this wasn't a guaranteed catch, but any halfway worthwhile receiver should have brought that one in, even if it was in garbage time.
I don't worry about the way Henne played as much as a worry about a young QB needing to bounce back from an incredibly disappointing game for the first time in his career.
Henne did have some bad passes in the second half, but the pass blocking wasn't stopping the blitz, and the receivers simply didn't make plays when they were there to make. A 25 or 30 yard pass was thrown just over Ginn's head, and went right through his hands. Another hit him in the chest. On our game-ending drive (after the second pick 6, which was just a desperation pass to begin with and necessarily a bad play by Henne at all), Ginn missed a TD chance in the end zone when he failed to adjust to a ball thrown near his outside shoulder that was actually very well throw. Once again, this wasn't a guaranteed catch, but any halfway worthwhile receiver should have brought that one in, even if it was in garbage time.
I don't worry about the way Henne played as much as a worry about a young QB needing to bounce back from an incredibly disappointing game for the first time in his career.