How Would Feeley Have Done?

[Fineas]

Last year, Feeley put up the following numbers:

191/356 (53.7%), 1893 yards, 11 TD, 15 INT, QB Rating: 61.7

This year, Gus has done:

235/459 (51.2%), 2757, 17 TD, 13 INT, QB Rating: 70.3

I think its fair to say that Gus has a much more QB-friendly environment than Feeley had last year: (1) the OL is dramatically improved, especially its pass protection; (2) the running game is dramatically improved with Ronnie and Ricky; and (3) the offensive system under Linehan has produced some huge years for QBs, as compared to the pathetically vanilla offense that Foerster ran last year.

Had Feeley gotten the nod this year, what kind of numbers do you think he would have put up (assuming he got the same kind of patience from the coaches that Gus has gotten)?

I think he would have put up numbers comparable to what Gus has done this year. If he did, I'd be feeling a lot better going into next year after a solid close to the season with a 29 yr. old QB than with a 35-yr. old.

 

[Emskirch]

Feeley has a good arm, but had issues reading defenses, I don't think he would have improved this season. In fairness, Gus knew the offensive system when he walked in the door. Edge Gus, and I think it would be unfair to think that AJ would have picked up the Offense to put up the numbers that Gus did.

 

[Prime]

I'm glad that Frerotte is starting, not Feeley. if Feeley was starting, we prob would only have about 5 or 6 wins right now. Feeley would prob have #'s that looked something like this.....

2500 passing yards/ 54 completion/ 14 TD/ 17 INT

 

[rafael]

I'm glad that Frerotte is starting, not Feeley. if Feeley was starting, we prob would only have about 5 or 6 wins right now. Feeley would prob have #'s that looked something like this.....

2500 passing yards/ 54 completion/ 14 TD/ 17 INT

I agree. AJ has a good arm but he isn't a smart guy. That lack of intelligence would limit his progress. IMO we wouldn't have a .500 or better record with AJ as our starter.

 

[Golphindolphin]

I'm glad that Frerotte is starting, not Feeley. if Feeley was starting, we prob would only have about 5 or 6 wins right now. Feeley would prob have #'s that looked something like this.....

2500 passing yards/ 54 completion/ 14 TD/ 17 INT

I think he would have had at least 18 or 19 touchdowns...oh, wait if you throw 'em to the other team they don't count on the stats for TD passes. Yeah, 14 sounds right.

 

[twanderer]

I think it's a moot point.

 

[IceStorm]

Well, I look at it like this.
In Philly, he was a 3rd string QB.
In Miami, he came in as a 2nd with blind hopes he could mature and learn and become a starter.
With a coach like Wannestadt, he stayed a 2nd string.
With Saban, he was moved back to 3rd string.

There must be a reason why the good coaches seem to think he's a 3rd stringer.
Since they know what they're doing, and none of us do, I'll accept the fact that he's not a starting QB in the NFL.

If he was here still, I don't see us being 8-7 now. His lack of ability to read a defense and how he sometimes locked onto receivers gave me chills.

 

[inFINSible]

Feeley probably would have been blitzed a lot more than Gus was early in the season, and we would have lost more games due to TO's and poor decision making but, I'm not convinced that he wouldn't have improved over the course of the season and ended up with similar numbers as Frerotte.

 

[FinaticalOne]

Last year, Feeley put up the following numbers:

191/356 (53.7%), 1893 yards, 11 TD, 15 INT, QB Rating: 61.7

This year, Gus has done:

235/459 (51.2%), 2757, 17 TD, 13 INT, QB Rating: 70.3

I think its fair to say that Gus has a much more QB-friendly environment than Feeley had last year: (1) the OL is dramatically improved, especially its pass protection; (2) the running game is dramatically improved with Ronnie and Ricky; and (3) the offensive system under Linehan has produced some huge years for QBs, as compared to the pathetically vanilla offense that Foerster ran last year.

Had Feeley gotten the nod this year, what kind of numbers do you think he would have put up (assuming he got the same kind of patience from the coaches that Gus has gotten)?

I think he would have put up numbers comparable to what Gus has done this year. If he did, I'd be feeling a lot better going into next year after a solid close to the season with a 29 yr. old QB than with a 35-yr. old.

Do you remember the reads Feeley was making last year. He was forcing throws into double and triple coverages. Plus he had durablility issues. His numbers will still be horrible as fas as TD/INT ratio is concerned. He would have more INTs than TDs. I'm tired of having QBs that can't throw more TDs than INTs, we haven't had a QB like that since Marino. We've had to go through Lucas, Fiedler, Griese, Feeley, and Frerotte. Out of all of these QBs, Frerotte had the best TD/INT ratio in a season BY FAR. By the way, how many pick 6s have Frerotte thrown this year...NONE. Have we quickly forgotten how easily we used to throw pick 6s over the years too. Feeley is where he should be, with another team. Even Sage shows more potention than Feeley right now.

 

[tylerdolphin]

We wont ever know. I think he could have thrown more TDs than picks this yea with a 55%. The thing that would stand him out though are the pick 6's. They would have lost us at least a few games. So my nod goes to (heave) Frerotte (heave). Both suck so you cant possibly have a right answer.

 

[CrunchTime]

-*Feeley was a slow learner and never seemed to learn from his mistakes.I am sure he would have continued to throw pick 6s and we would have lost several more games.

Also he didnt feel the pressure very well and would have been sacked much more than Gus who is quite effective at stepping out of trouble

He always threw the ball the same way and had no touch on the ball.And he threw the ball in a low trajectory which made it easy to bat down.

He was a mistake and we had to get rid of him if only because he was due big time starters money and would have been a heaven burden in on our cap.

 

[SuperDuperFan]

I think there are a few things you have to look at here (good thread BTW)

- AJ was not good in the pocket, Gus is. Gus has made our o-line look very good. I think with AJ we would have had a lot more sacks.
- The interceptions Gus has thrown have hurt us a lot less than ones AJ tended to throw. AJ was very prone to throwing the pick 6 (although I still believe a lot of that had to do with our playcalling last year). Gus has thrown picks mostly on deep balls or tipped passes.

 

[MiamiMan147]

The fact that Feeley's numbers in that sad excuse for an offense are anywhere near Frerotte's speaks volumes, IMHO. Feeley threw a lot of picks in large part to being under heavy pressure every single down and having the long ball practically ripped out of the playbook because our inability to keep him upright for more than 2 seconds. People complained when he threw INT's trying to make things happen, but he did learn to be more careful in the last few games. Of course that caused our yardage totals to disappear because forcing things was the only way to move the ball downfield.

There must be a reason why the good coaches seem to think he's a 3rd stringer.

He'll be 2nd string next year behind Drew Brees once they deal Rivers. That's why San Diego got him.

 

[tcdrover]

Feeley couldn't handle pressure well. He would get frustrated and visibly shaken.

The offense feeds off of a qb's confidence, and shaking like a little girl & throwing little tantrums doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Opponents defense's and D coordinators likewise feed off of a qb's body language. If I were a D coordinator I would blitz that pretty boy until he wets his pants a couple of times...:evil:

Gus may not be very accurate but he IS mentally tough and always keeps his cool and composure even when he gets clobbered...

 

[MiamiMan147]

Feeley couldn't handle pressure well.

There's pressure and then theres PRESSURE. The latter was what Feeley faced last season. I'm not sure how most of the elite QB's would have reacted given that I've never seen a QB get smacked so quickly and so often.