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Hyde: Who’s accountable for this disappointing season? Ross’ clownish behavior suggests it’s no one

Not going to click on that but ultimately... I sort of don't care what happens with Grier, he's very average, they could probably do better with someone else as they could do worse... I literally don't have the knowledge to make any kind of informed opinion on this.

I do think firing Mike is a bad move, if you're going to hire a first time HC, you need to let it play out a little and despite everything people hate about his work, his results have been pretty much top of the line compared to other HCs at that stage in their career...
 
I am one of the most positive posters I believe on this site, always thinking the glass is half full. That story irks me like crazy. Beating an injury plagued 49ers team should have been a pat on the back behind closed doors if anything at all. I know many want McD and or Grier gone soon but I do not care one way or another if either is gone next year. I just want Ross to sell the team NOW. I am glad he enjoys the Fins and owns them and has a box and Waddles to his friends when Waddle gets a TD. None of that matters if he also is instilling a winning culture and successful one. The evidence is he has not, he has hurt the team with tampering and who knows with Flores. He just is too apparent and too much at times. I do not even know most teams owners and rarely see them when watching Fins games if they are not Jerry Jones (bigger idiot) or that Patriots guy. Who owns the Bills/ Steelers/ Ravens/ Chiefs ..... I am not sure because they are not as apparent as Ross and all have the right to be more so.
 
The writing has been on the wall since the end of last season. McD was never going anywhere anytime soon. I mean if losing the division when up 3 with 4 games left gets an extension hard to know what gets you fired.

Then add in the easy excuse Tua got hurt so it wouldn’t be fair to McD. I really think Ross plans on running it back as currently structured in the FO and Coaching staff.
 
I quite liked the article. His point is asking what the standards are for the team.




“It’s one of my favorite sports moments, memories of my life,” McDaniel told his players in the locker room.

That pedestrian win?

The Heat’s Pat Riley said he wouldn’t get “warm fuzzies” after losing in the Eastern Conference finals a few years back. The Stanley Cup champion Florida Panthers won their first playoff series in a quarter-century a few years back and re-made their coaching staff because their system wasn’t good enough.


Once upon a time, the Dolphins set the standard for South Florida sports. Now the owner throws a fist in the air and tosses the coach a game ball for getting to 7-8 with a flickering chance of the playoffs. He’s ready to run the GM’s six years of nothing into a seventh year.


It’s Ross’s team, his call. But he needs to tell fans why this is where he’s setting the bar.”
 
The writing has been on the wall since the end of last season. McD was never going anywhere anytime soon. I mean if losing the division when up 3 with 4 games left gets an extension hard to know what gets you fired.

Then add in the easy excuse Tua got hurt so it wouldn’t be fair to McD. I really think Ross plans on running it back as currently structured in the FO and Coaching staff.
Ross seems to have good intentions. He has no clue how to establish a football culture that - as the article states - used to define the standard for all south Florida sports.
 
Ross seems to have good intentions. He has no clue how to establish a football culture that - as the article states - used to define the standard for all south Florida sports.
Yeah it was a good article. As an outside fan looking in. I used to like McDaniels “quirkiness” awkwardness etc. because I could see he really cared for his players. (Don’t see that from a lot of coaches). But also this year to me the results are not there. And that “quirkiness” and such of his is more annoying than anything.

He clearly to me seems more of a players friend than their coach. Which can be fine as long as there is that coach that will get in a millionaires ass when needed. That is what I don’t see on the Fins coaching or FO anywhere. And to be honest rarely have in MIA since Shula. And why the soft tag just will never go away. And players like OBJ and Poyer see it as a retirement destination (you will get more like them than you do Calais IMO) with a friendly FO and Coaching Staff.

There is always talk about where is the dog in the players. Well when you don’t have a Dog in the coaching staff why would the players develop it themselves
 
Yeah it was a good article. As an outside fan looking in. I used to like McDaniels “quirkiness” awkwardness etc. because I could see he really cared for his players. (Don’t see that from a lot of coaches). But also this year to me the results are not there. And that “quirkiness” and such of his is more annoying than anything.

He clearly to me seems more of a players friend than their coach. Which can be fine as long as there is that coach that will get in a millionaires ass when needed. That is what I don’t see on the Fins coaching or FO anywhere. And to be honest rarely have in MIA since Shula. And why the soft tag just will never go away. And players like OBJ and Poyer see it as a retirement destination (you will get more like them than you do Calais IMO) with a friendly FO and Coaching Staff.

There is always talk about where is the dog in the players. Well when you don’t have a Dog in the coaching staff why would the players develop it themselves
Exactly. The “dog” thing is why I was 100% for Dan Campbell - perhaps he wouldn’t have been successful who knows. But the guys would have played like Dogs.
 
Exactly. The “dog” thing is why I was 100% for Dan Campbell - perhaps he wouldn’t have been successful who knows. But the guys would have played like Dogs.
agree and it doesnt have to be an in your face spitter like a John Gruden. A quiet professional that sets the standard and holds the players to that standard.

Often I hear players around the league win or loss talk about not playing to their standard. Etc etc. rarely do I hear that from Fin players. I think McDaniel can be a successful long term winning coach and lead a team to a SB. But in order to do that someone needs to acknowledge the flaws and hold him to a standard as well.

His in game management is ??? At best.
His discipline is ?? To me.

I think for him to be successful two things need to happen with HIM.

1. Give up playcalling
2. Hire a coach that will be the enforcer
 
The writing has been on the wall since the end of last season. McD was never going anywhere anytime soon. I mean if losing the division when up 3 with 4 games left gets an extension hard to know what gets you fired.

Then add in the easy excuse Tua got hurt so it wouldn’t be fair to McD. I really think Ross plans on running it back as currently structured in the FO and Coaching staff.
the only "structured" thing about this team is the ineptitude
 
agree and it doesnt have to be an in your face spitter like a John Gruden. A quiet professional that sets the standard and holds the players to that standard.

Often I hear players around the league win or loss talk about not playing to their standard. Etc etc. rarely do I hear that from Fin players. I think McDaniel can be a successful long term winning coach and lead a team to a SB. But in order to do that someone needs to acknowledge the flaws and hold him to a standard as well.

His in game management is ??? At best.
His discipline is ?? To me.

I think for him to be successful two things need to happen with HIM.

1. Give up playcalling
2. Hire a coach that will be the enforcer
Totally agree
 
I think this is reading too much into it. It's a game ball. It seemed to me they were celebrating the win, not the season.
 
I think this is reading too much into it. It's a game ball. It seemed to me they were celebrating the win, not the season.
This. I don’t think he’s firing McDaniel, so such a take as above isn’t even on the table for him when he’s talking.
 
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