Hyde10: Ten questions on Miami Dolphins tank job

[DKphin]

1. Why did the Dolphins make this trade with Houston?
2. Who’s next to go?
3. Did the Dolphins get value for their trades?
4. Will the Dolphins lose every game?
5. Drafting the right quarterback with the top pick.
6. When can the Dolphins be realistically good again?
7. If you’re Steve Ross, what are you thinking?
8. Is Chris Grier good enough to do this?
9. Is anyone the better for this?
10. Should fans embrace the tanking?

Hyde10: Ten questions on Miami Dolphins tank job

And so it’s done. The tank is on. The Miami Dolphins traded away their best lineman and best receiver to Houston to finally embrace the tank. Do you Trust The Tank? Are you hopping on the tan…

www.sun-sentinel.com

 

[datruth55]

1. Too good to pass up
2. Kiko Alonso...others to be named later
3. They got lots of draft picks. In that regard we got value. What we do with those picks will determine just how much value.
4. No.
5. That's not a question...but lets hope so.
6. 2021?
7. Where his next real estate project is.
8. No.
9. Yes. Brian Xanders and John Dorsey who's already doing it in Cleveland. Those are two off the top of my head.
10. Fans have no choice.

 

[ANUFan]

Lol, we're finally doing things differently from out typical sign some big FA name and claim we're a contender. Yet, all i'm reading and seeing is crying all over the place.
This FO needs to hold steady. Get rid of the players that aren't going to contribute to this team, stock up on those draft picks, and finally build this thing from the ground up.

Great time to be a Dolphins fan..

 

[TarHeelFinFan]

1. Why did the Dolphins make this trade with Houston?
2. Who’s next to go?
3. Did the Dolphins get value for their trades?
4. Will the Dolphins lose every game?
5. Drafting the right quarterback with the top pick.
6. When can the Dolphins be realistically good again?
7. If you’re Steve Ross, what are you thinking?
8. Is Chris Grier good enough to do this?
9. Is anyone the better for this?
10. Should fans embrace the tanking?

Hyde10: Ten questions on Miami Dolphins tank job

And so it’s done. The tank is on. The Miami Dolphins traded away their best lineman and best receiver to Houston to finally embrace the tank. Do you Trust The Tank? Are you hopping on the tan…

www.sun-sentinel.com

1. They have no clue what they’re doing.
2. Drake, probably.
3. Some.
4. Yes.
5. No HoF QBs in this draft. Terrible time to tank.
6. 2023. After Grier and Flores are fired, and Ross sells the team or dies.
7. Hurr dee durp.
8. . No. Not at all. He is a big part of Miami’s personnel problems of the last 20 years and should absolutely have been part of the post-Gase housecleaning rather than continuing to fail upward within the organization.
9. Yes. Pretty much anyone.
10. No. Tanking doesn’t work. No team that’s won the Super Bowl recently got there by tanking.

 

[hoops]

Who’s next to go?

Put me down for drake at the trade deadline.

3rd rounder

They will watch him bounce it outside despite the play design inside for no damn reason a good number of times and say f it I’m done

 

[Kamelion4291]

1. Why did the Dolphins make this trade with Houston? The draft capital was insane. "Elite" left tackles aren't as useful in today's NFL. The Patriots never paid big money for Olineman and Flores knows that. And if the plan is to get Tua, then you need a good RT, not LT.
2. Who’s next to go? Not sure any more big names or cuts happen this season, but guys like Reshad Jones are going to be gone immediately next year.
3. Did the Dolphins get value for their trades? Tunsil? They got more than what he was worth. Kiko? They obviously didn't, but it was salary cap room and his request that forced that trade. Stills was going to be cut or traded for at most a 5th rounder apparently if he didn't go to Houston, so I'm not really factoring that in.
4. Will the Dolphins lose every game? No. They might, but they'll probably get a game or two from Fitzmagic. Anyone who thinks this team is creeping up to a 6 win season are completely dreaming.
5. Drafting the right quarterback with the top pick. Tua, not even close. Not Herbert. Not Fromm. Not Love. Not Lawrence in 2021. Tua. He's the best prospect of them all imo.
6. When can the Dolphins be realistically good again? Depends on what "good" means. Are we competitive week in and week out? Literally as soon as next season if we land Tua and use our capital wisely by fortifying both lines. Won't legitimately challenge for a playoff spot until the following year though. Too much youth and we won't spend all our cap space in one offseason.
7. If you’re Steve Ross, what are you thinking? He knows what the plan is.
8. Is Chris Grier good enough to do this? Alone? I'd be weary, but with Allen and McKenzie, I think we have some real good guys to do this.
9. Is anyone the better for this? Not in 2019, that's for sure, but in 2020 people are going to be reeeeeeeeeeeeal hype.
10. Should fans embrace the tanking? If they want to get off the mediocrity treadmill, absolutely. All the other make believe stuff like culture is all sports buzzword nonsense. Fans complained for YEARS that the Dolphins didn't invest as much as they should into the quarterback position when we were using second rounders on the position. So we ruin the SuckForLuck season because "tanking is bad" and end up with Tannehill who wasted 7 years of this franchise. So now, we're investing everything we possibly can into fixing that position and for some reason some fans are against it. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The goal is to win the SUPER BOWL, not squeak into the playoffs. This team did not have the talent to challenge for a Super Bowl berth, everybody knows this, so we started over to collect young talent in an era where the Patriots still reign supreme. We're giving ourselves a legitimate shot to emerge from that dynasty once Brady is gone as the Kings of the AFC East. Will it work? No guarantees, but you gotta go with the correct strategy even if it doesn't work out.

 

[PASQUALE]

1. For starters I think the deal is a huge win for our Miami Dolphins and you do not pass on anything like this.
2. If anyone else is to go? What a stupid question we are cleaning house so everyone is on the chopping list if you ask me.
3. Drafts are a crap shoot. 50/50. But we have over 20 picks in the next 2 years so I say we win with value.
4. 4-12
5. The draft is a crap shoot again.
6. 2022
7. I am thinking of selling the team and finding my burial site as I say to myself "Dear Lord what did I ever do to you to deserve this ****!"
8. Honestly, I say no. But, I will give him the benefit of the doubt till next year.
9. Yes. 4-12 I am taking that bet (5.5)
10. Us fans have no say in the organization so we have no choice.

 

[djphinfan]

This has become an intellectual roadblock for some of these writers..

They just don’t get it..

 

[MiamiDolfan85]

1. Why did the Dolphins make this trade with Houston?
2. Who’s next to go?
3. Did the Dolphins get value for their trades?
4. Will the Dolphins lose every game?
5. Drafting the right quarterback with the top pick.
6. When can the Dolphins be realistically good again?
7. If you’re Steve Ross, what are you thinking?
8. Is Chris Grier good enough to do this?
9. Is anyone the better for this?
10. Should fans embrace the tanking?

Hyde10: Ten questions on Miami Dolphins tank job

And so it’s done. The tank is on. The Miami Dolphins traded away their best lineman and best receiver to Houston to finally embrace the tank. Do you Trust The Tank? Are you hopping on the tan…

www.sun-sentinel.com

7....

[Cuts to Ross with both hands tucked behind his back. Overseeing the chaos, as it brews]

Ross - "Yes...". Said, ever so slightly with a wearing a slight smirk.

-Fades black....



Ross is done eith the bs, and Im right behind him.

 

[Bundy Sanders]

1. Why did the Dolphins make this trade with Houston?
Because they got a king's ransom in picks, plus they took Stills' bloated contract to boot.

2. Who’s next to go?
My guess is Kenyan Drake

3. Did the Dolphins get value for their trades?
Without a doubt! It's rare to see a player bring back 2-#1 picks. Tunsil brought even more than that. Getting a team to take most of Kiko's contract off our hands was a win.

4. Will the Dolphins lose every game?
Not sure, but they were ticketed for a losing season either way. These trades weren't about 2019.

5. Drafting the right quarterback with the top pick.
Is that a question or a statement?

6. When can the Dolphins be realistically good again?
If most of the picks work out & there are smart FA signings, I expect us to have a top 5 defense in 2020 & a winning record/playoffs by 2021.

7. If you’re Steve Ross, what are you thinking?
Man, did I ever screw up by hiring Gase & T-Baum! I should've done this rebuild years ago, but better late than never.

8. Is Chris Grier good enough to do this?
The jury is still out but there's now no Gase or T-Baum to screw things up & Grier now has Allen & McKenzie as more eyes for talent & they have proven track records. I like our chances.

9. Is anyone the better for this?
Absolutely! Long suffering Dolphins fans are better for this. I've been following this team for nearly 50 years & I have more hope for the future now than at anytime since Shula was in charge.

10. Should fans embrace the tanking?
That's up to each fan. From reading this board, many fans are upset. Not me. I'm beyond tired of watching the same failures over & over for the past 20+ years.

 

[Osmo]

1. Why did the Dolphins make this trade with Houston?
Because of the insane amount that Houston was willing to give up for Tunsil

2. Who’s next to go?
Since Kiko is also gone, the next to go in my opinion is Jones or Drake.

3. Did the Dolphins get value for their trades?
Is this even really a question, it's the only reason we made the trades.

4. Will the Dolphins lose every game?
No, but it's not gonna be a good year

5. Drafting the right quarterback with the top pick.
Not this upcoming draft. Contrary to popular opinion, I don't believe we will take a QB in the first round of the 2020 Draft. I believe they will give Rosen this year and next to see what he can do and if not the answer use their 2x 1's in the 2021 draft to move up for a qb if needed.

6. When can the Dolphins be realistically good again?
2022

7. If you’re Steve Ross, what are you thinking?
Glad T-baum is gone.

8. Is Chris Grier good enough to do this?
So far I think he has done a remarkable job to collect draft picks. It will all depend on how many of those picks he can hit on.

9. Is anyone the better for this?
Sure, but they weren't available as a option when Ross finally got his head out his butt

10. Should fans embrace the tanking?
I hate the tanking term. I think that fans should embrace the trimming of the fat and the youth movement this team has going.

 

[Digital]

1. Why did the Dolphins make this trade with Houston? Because we're tanking and we need draft capital for trades and young players.
2. Who’s next to go? John Denny, at 40 years old they thought he might take up two roster spots.
3. Did the Dolphins get value for their trades? Considering that they saw zero value in older players like Kiko and Stills, and foresaw difficulty ahead re-signing Tunsil, the Dolphins believe they received good value.
4. Will the Dolphins lose every game? No, the goal is to tank, not to get Coach Flo fired. Remember, Jimmy Johnson built a dynasty on the Herschel Walker trade and an initial 1 win season. But a 1 win season got Cam Cameron canned.
5. Drafting the right quarterback with the top pick. Yep, pretty obvious that one.
6. When can the Dolphins be realistically good again? Need to set your timetable. This year--hellz no. Next year--not likely but we'll improve. By 2021--yes, the team will be ascending and might be good as soon as 2021.
7. If you’re Steve Ross, what are you thinking? This total tear-down rebuild is a great purpose to focus on to stay alive and vital. I need to see this through.
8. Is Chris Grier good enough to do this? So far Grier has done a masterful job of acquiring picks, truly fantastic. If he is even decent spending those picks he'll be the toast of the town.
9. Is anyone the better for this? If we develop into a Super Bowl contender the entire team and city are better for it. If not, hey, at least we tried, and we've not been competitive for 2 consecutive years since Marino.
10. Should fans embrace the tanking? Might as well, because this organization is tanking whether the fans embrace it this year or not.

Hyde10: Ten questions on Miami Dolphins tank job

And so it’s done. The tank is on. The Miami Dolphins traded away their best lineman and best receiver to Houston to finally embrace the tank. Do you Trust The Tank? Are you hopping on the tan…

www.sun-sentinel.com

My answers appear in orange after the questions.

 

[DuderinoN703]

Hey what’s another three years of not winning a playoff game? It’s only my favorite sport that I look forward to all year.

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

Maybe the biggest question there is Grier. His first draft brought Tunsil, Howard, Drake and Grant. His second draft wasn't so good with Harris, McMillan and Tankersley. Third draft netted Fitzpatrick, Baker, Gesicki. This past draft was Wilkins, Deiter, Van Ginkel, Cox. Not a bad track record. Some misses. Howard looks like one of the best corners in the game. Baker looks ready to take off. I think Fitzpatrick will be great. He got a two firsts and a second for Tunsil.

How it plays going forward is huge. First and foremost, Grier has to find the right quarterback. A hit there and the pieces likely fall into place, even with some hits and misses.