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As bad and as frustrating as the last 20 years have been, I don't know that I've ever seen whatever Dolphins message board I've used during that time be as disheartened as today. We've had worse losses in that time, but this one seemed to crush a lot of people, and I mean in the sense that a lot of fans now seem resigned to the fact that the Dolphins aren't close to good and probably will not be anytime soon.

That's how I feel. First time I've ever felt I am not even going to bother watching the game next week. I'm actually trying to find other things to do. A friend of mine who is a Dolphin fan called me, and his nephew, who also is a Dolphin fan, told him he is giving up on the team and is going to root for whoever moves to L.A. first. He doesn't even care which team it is. He just can't take the Dolphins anymore. And, as much as I would have tried in the past to convince him otherwise, I couldn't do it anymore. This team makes people miserable.

Luckily, this has never happened to me personally, but I get the sense that this is like watching a close friend or family member destroy their lives through addiction or something like that. You love them, but you get to a point where you get past anger and sadness and just feel numb, tired and empty. You see them destroying themselves and realize there is nothing you can do about it, and you just don't want to see it anymore.

Yeah, that's kind of how I feel about my Dolphins right now. Love them, but I love them too much to keep watching this.
 
It's getting really hard to give a ****. If the off-season is more bs like we have seen with moronic decisions that could be the last straw for me. I don't even live in Miami, why should I care? Dolphins will always be my team I just won't watch anymore. Better things to do.
 
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afraid im teetering on the edge myself after 40 years and counting, sorry that I invest so much in this team. I don't even enjoy watching them and get accused of being the worst most negative fan around because I already know whats going to happen. They're always going to find a way to **** up and suck the life out of us fans. I am going to find other **** to do on Sunday, I don't even enjoy watching other games because it docent affect our PLAYOFF chances, because there are no playoff chances. This was indeed a wretched loss which ended the season with 8 games to go. **** these guys.
 
We'll beat Philly and Dallas to get back to .500 and excite everyone again. Watch.


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roy_miami said:
More Tanne-kills to add to his collection.
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Yeah everyone's real nostalgic for the Henne, Lemon, Lucas eras.


As for the main thrust of this thread, I don't think this is all that new, man. It's been a downward spiral for 15 years with ebbs and flows along the way. There's no new bull**** to get excited about with this team so enthusiasm is particularly down. Like the philbin hire was a gawd awful hire yet the vast majority of people here got excited about it and that placebo got them by for a few years. Ross will probably hire some terrible new HC this offseason and people will fool themselves into getting excited over it. That's how it usually works. These splashy mirages don't mean anything in the long run but you'll see spirits lift a bit and it'll push ticket sales for next season.
 
I still don't think we're as far off as it seems. I actually saw SOME good things in yesterday's game. The game really swung on the back to back plays involving Suh. On the 2nd down, he was CLEARLY in the grasp of Suh and that should've been a sack and 10 yard loss. On the following play was the most heinous no-call I've ever seen on a hold. That TD took the game from 5 points to 12 and effectively ended the game.
That, and the fact that Karlos William's first TD was a fumble out of bounds. The ball started moving from his grasp before the goal line. They deliberately avoided showing the one conclusive view compared to the other, totally useless camera angles. It's clear to me that the replay official was shown the bogus angles 10x more than the one good, very conclusive angle, IMO.
I thought the team did fight today. I'm excited about Ayayi. That dude is quick and strong. Miller out of the backfield is a hell of a weapon, too.
We need to make our WRs run more vertical patterns, period. This "everything is a lateral" BS is pissing me off, but that is an adaptation spawned by bad offensive line play for years.
Tyrod Taylor had all day on the 2 bombs he hit. RT17 Rarely gets that kind of time, and it took a brutal hold for Taylor to get the time on the 2nd, soul-crushing bomb to Watkins.

The Bills scored 33 points today when they should've only scored 26. 26 is not that many points, and your offense has to be able to either score more, or limit the opponents number of possessions by controlling the clock. Miami's O has to be better, and that's both scheme and offensive line talent. With our starting 5 in place, our offensive line is good enough, but Jason Fox is too poor a replacement (even though he didn't even do that badly, overall) to allow your offense to function. Miami has to improve this offseason, period, on the O-Line. I prefer using FA to do this (and get lucky with later-round picks) as I do think we have the pieces we need for a starting 5. We can upgrade back-up tackle in FA; get a guy much better than Fox, IMO. Our lack of depth has been a death-blow, again, to this season as it seems to be every season, especially with offensive line depth. We lose Albert last year and our season is over. We lose James this year and our season is over. It's pretty F'n clear what we need. As much as we fretted about our guards in the offseason, our Tackle position has, once again, been our undoing.
Fix Offensive line with FA and draft defense early and often. The 2016 draft has to be about 'Need Positions'. I don't care about 'reaching'. We tried to get cute back when Earl Thomas was available and wound up with Odrick and Misi, neither of which has helped us win a playoff berth. I guarantee there's gonna be a guy at either LB, CB, or S when we draft at 12 or better next May.

As far as Dan Campbell goes, I'm not pitching him in the trash just yet. Ya gotta learn sometime. He's learning. The well-respected Dan Rizzi oversaw his team hold or block from the back 5 times in that game to keep us pinned deep in the shadow of our goalposts. Is that Campbell's fault?
Should we have taken the points before the half? Yeah, but we're 'aggressive' now so we didn't. However, we crapped on our own 'aggression' by not running the ball there ( I think a Tanny read-option run would've worked). Not calling timeout after Miller got to the 2-yard line was criminal. I don't know how that happened but Tanny was a dunderhead, as usual, too, there.
Let's see if Campbell learns from it. It won't take long to figure it out if he keeps making bone-head, vapor-lock dumb decisions. I'm hoping he won't.

What scares me is that we are the worst team in the division, from a full-roster standpoint. The Bills, when healthy, are a very talented and dangerous football team. You go down the list of players and you have to respect the talent there. Shady McCoy, Watkins (who's the first WR to make Grimes look that bad that I've seen), Charles Clay, Woods is a nice WR as well, and a lot of talent on D that's now healthy. A fully loaded Bills team is just better than we are, period. They weren't hamstrung by Jeff Ireland for 4 years too long. They understand that football is blocking and tackling and then running vertical routes with your talented WR. It just so happens that their young QB can mix Donavan McNabb (in his prime) with Michael Vick.
It's sad to say, but he clearly has 'IT' at a much younger age than Tannehill, and RT will probably never truly have 'IT' as much as Taylor already does.

That being said, I still think Tannehill can do enough to win with enough help and we clearly don't have that help when a starting tackle is injured.
 
What gets frustrating is Miami melts down so early in the year that the talk lf FA and draft and a new coach seems years away.

I just dont know what offenses see in our run d that we cant fix. When you allow 270 yards rushing how do you recover? Could the scheme be the problem? There is different players and a diff coach now. Or are the players just that bad?


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PCmor said:
As bad and as frustrating as the last 20 years have been, I don't know that I've ever seen whatever Dolphins message board I've used during that time be as disheartened as today. We've had worse losses in that time, but this one seemed to crush a lot of people, and I mean in the sense that a lot of fans now seem resigned to the fact that the Dolphins aren't close to good and probably will not be anytime soon.

That's how I feel. First time I've ever felt I am not even going to bother watching the game next week. I'm actually trying to find other things to do. A friend of mine who is a Dolphin fan called me, and his nephew, who also is a Dolphin fan, told him he is giving up on the team and is going to root for whoever moves to L.A. first. He doesn't even care which team it is. He just can't take the Dolphins anymore. And, as much as I would have tried in the past to convince him otherwise, I couldn't do it anymore. This team makes people miserable.

Luckily, this has never happened to me personally, but I get the sense that this is like watching a close friend or family member destroy their lives through addiction or something like that. You love them, but you get to a point where you get past anger and sadness and just feel numb, tired and empty. You see them destroying themselves and realize there is nothing you can do about it, and you just don't want to see it anymore.

Yeah, that's kind of how I feel about my Dolphins right now. Love them, but I love them too much to keep watching this.
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Imagine if it were the Dolphins that moved to LA.

Also what you are describing is apathy... And this is how I've felt for two or three years now. They might win next week, but who cares because they still suck...
 
PCmor said:
As bad and as frustrating as the last 20 years have been, I don't know that I've ever seen whatever Dolphins message board I've used during that time be as disheartened as today. We've had worse losses in that time, but this one seemed to crush a lot of people, and I mean in the sense that a lot of fans now seem resigned to the fact that the Dolphins aren't close to good and probably will not be anytime soon.

That's how I feel. First time I've ever felt I am not even going to bother watching the game next week. I'm actually trying to find other things to do. A friend of mine who is a Dolphin fan called me, and his nephew, who also is a Dolphin fan, told him he is giving up on the team and is going to root for whoever moves to L.A. first. He doesn't even care which team it is. He just can't take the Dolphins anymore. And, as much as I would have tried in the past to convince him otherwise, I couldn't do it anymore. This team makes people miserable.

Luckily, this has never happened to me personally, but I get the sense that this is like watching a close friend or family member destroy their lives through addiction or something like that. You love them, but you get to a point where you get past anger and sadness and just feel numb, tired and empty. You see them destroying themselves and realize there is nothing you can do about it, and you just don't want to see it anymore.

Yeah, that's kind of how I feel about my Dolphins right now. Love them, but I love them too much to keep watching this.
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I have said it a million times before. NOTHING will change as long as Ross is the owner. It's like smashing our head into a brick wall over and over as fans. All we can do on our end is stop watching this train wreck of a team. Next week Demarco Murray will probably have 200 yards rushing on us. The Eagles will just ram it down our throat. The misery will continue unabated.
 
Tannchise said:
What gets frustrating is Miami melts down so early in the year that the talk lf FA and draft and a new coach seems years away.

I just dont know what offenses see in our run d that we cant fix. When you allow 270 yards rushing how do you recover? Could the scheme be the problem? There is different players and a diff coach now. Or are the players just that bad?


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We have too many wussies on our team. No tough physical guys who can step up. All we have is Suh on the d-line and if he gets neutralized that's it. The rest of our d-line sucks as does our linebacking corp. We had a star in CB Brent Grimes but his play has fallen off now too. Reshad Jones is good but we have nothing else in the secondary.
 
The Bills game is a microcasm of our problems. they PHYSICALLY manhandled us. We lack PHYSICAL players who will hit back and go toe to toe. A Tony Sparano team would've faired much better against these Bills teams then our current team of finesse pansies. At least Sparano's players played a physical brand of football.
 
I became less interested in watching games weeks ago when it was clear the Patriots would be making it to the playoffs and probably the Superbowl again. Gets old year after year.
 
Mogwai said:
Yeah everyone's real nostalgic for the Henne, Lemon, Lucas eras.


As for the main thrust of this thread, I don't think this is all that new, man. It's been a downward spiral for 15 years with ebbs and flows along the way. There's no new bull**** to get excited about with this team so enthusiasm is particularly down. Like the philbin hire was a gawd awful hire yet the vast majority of people here got excited about it and that placebo got them by for a few years. Ross will probably hire some terrible new HC this offseason and people will fool themselves into getting excited over it. That's how it usually works. These splashy mirages don't mean anything in the long run but you'll see spirits lift a bit and it'll push ticket sales for next season.
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I may be alone on this one....but this franchise has never been the same since Shula was forced out just 2 years after getting us to the AFC championship game in 1993(the last time we made it).

We jettisoned our great coach for a fraud who cared more about fishing in the Keys than this football team...JJ's heart was never in it.

That led to a loser like Wannstedt...and so on and so on.

Saban is a college coach...period. Parcell's heart wasn't in it either.

This organization keeps making the same mistakes...over and over.

Why wasn't Incognito given a second chance with our awful guard play?

I don't know if Campbell is the answer....but its a start to at least have a coach whose heart is in it...who the players respect.

Clearly we need more talent...and some more changes to the staff...but it may be unfair to lay this on Campbell.
 
Meh, do what you want.

'ol Bump will still be watching and rooting. :up:
 
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