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If Fins want to run the ball, better get OG's

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You pass protect w OT's. But if you want to run the ball you need studs in the Bermuda Triangle. C + OG's. This is where push comes to shove. If you can't man up vs DT and reach 2nd level LB's...your RB's are gonna receive initial contact at the LOS or bLOS.

Fins must find road graders at the OG position, and then also find a power runner that can run in WCO style zone blocking scheme. Right now, we dont have that back either.

Just sayin...Hickey. :d-day:
 
I disagree about the back. If you give him a line that can at least keep guys out of the backfield and create an initial crease of any kind, I think Daniel Thomas can rip off good runs. He's just not a miracle worker when there's penetration on 7-10 plays.
I was talking to my brother about running backs and he actually surprised me by saying he still likes Thomas, and, damnit, I still like Thomas too.
 
Well one of the staples of this type of offense is the stretch play, which requires the whole OL to move and run block. Albert isn't a good fit for that and we don't currently have a RT worth his salt. So, I would extend the run blocking need to RT candidates as well. Pouncey is a finesse pulling OC, which is a little weird honestly, but it further underlines the need to have two strong run blocking guards.

Zack Martin come on down!

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In the zone blocking scheme it all depends at the on the fronts that you see. if the guards are covered then your tackles need to have quick first steps if the guards are

pulling. if the tackles are covered inside shade then they need to be able to rip through and get to the next level. in my experience of teachings zone blocking the

tackles importance over shadows the guards. a lot of teams pull the center if he is uncovered when they see four man fronts. most zone blocking offenses fail at the

initial point of attack because of the lack of a quick first at by the tackles.
 
On the stretch play - If Guards are covered the owness isn't/shouldn't be on the tackles, it's on the Centre to work to the combo block with the OG to ultimately take over the block to allow Guards release - I've said a number of times before, when you have an athletic/aggressive centre like Pouncey who in effect can reach a 3 tech, you can do some significant damage with the stretch play.

However - the beauty of the ZBS, and in particular with the stretch, it's not just one play, it's two - it's an outside and an inside [with the cutback] run play.

The other aspect is, you can actually run outside stretch, with inside zone blocking - some of you might think what??? but, with alignment and package e.g 12 personnel - you could over load 2 TE's on one side, and with inside step/inside zone blocking scheme, could in fact run stretch blocking effectively. Case in point - Seattle did this well with either 12 or 11 personnel.

So it really shouldn't depend on the fronts you see in what you can do... yes, it impacts on alignments and footwork but that's the beauty of zone its about vision and you put the responsibility on the back to read the colour, so to your point about inside shade on OT's... by having that athletic OC who can take care of DT's, say in an under front and you are running stretch weak, i.e. towards the under... the OT really shouldn't have to rip the inside shade - I would fully expect him to have a clean release to the 80/90 backer - because with an inside shade, i.e. 4i or 3 tech, means you likely have 1tech DT with a 40 front or even 30 [i'm being generic with conventional scheme/wisdom to be clear] - which is Centres responsibility, which leaves the OG to take over the OT's inside shade [whatever tech you want to assign it]

Anyway, sorry... got carried away on that... my bad :)
 
The OTs were pretty crappy against the run last year I thought. We will probably get an OG in the draft.
 
I agree 100 percent with all you said I should have been more clear with the technique of the defensive tackles I was talking about. Sometimes texting a book is hard to do on my phone so I keep my post limited. Lol
 
Rookies? Zack Martin and say Yankey,Jackson, Brandon Thomas, or su'a Filo. Sandwich rookie guards between vet tackles and pouncey

Albert-Martin-Pouncey-Rookie Guard- Vet tackle
 
Hey 123phins .... nice draft in your signature. :)

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IF we go for OGs in the draft it definitely won't be in round 1 right?

Actually, an OG is one of the most likely scenarios for round 1. If Zack Martin is there, most people think he is our guy. Whether you consider him an OT or OG is debatable. Personally, I see him as an impact LG who has the potential to become like a Logan Mankins type player.
 
Shelley Smith fits the criteria, think he's exactly the guy we should look at. On top of that find a solid RT like Strief and we can draft from there.
 
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