If last season were different

[Scrap]

Hypothetical question: If Wannstedt hadn't coached last year, and we had Bates head coaching the whole season instead of just half the season, what would've been our record ?

I ask this in an attempt to see what kind of team everyone thinks we really had last year. (Not just the one Wannstedt fielded.) Now I'm not trying to start a bash Wanny thread, so let's try not to go there. IMO, we should base how our team has improved over last season by comparing the Bates version over comparing it to the Wannstedt version. It was two different teams, IMO. I don't think the Bates version of our team was so terrible to say that we'd have been a 4-12 team. What do y'all think, and how would you compare it to thus far (from what little we've seen in preseason) ?

 

[WharfRat]

Good question Scrap. I think it raises some interesting theories...

for instance, if Bates had been HC instead of Wanny, would Ricky have retired? would AJ been named starter day1? would those (and other) factors have made us a different team in '04?

hmmmm... :hmmm:

 

[ASCII]

dont know about the record but i think the overall results would be the same

 

[NYinBostonFin]

8-8....imo

 

[XxFiN FaNxX]

i think the reason bates/the team was so successful in the end of the season was bc he was a change of pace...a step in the different direction...etc...although i think bates has tremendous potential i do not think the outcome would have been much different...

 

[Scrap]

8-8....imo

Do you think we've improved ?

 

[Scrap]

Good question Scrap. I think it raises some interesting theories...

for instance, if Bates had been HC instead of Wanny, would Ricky have retired? would AJ been named starter day1? would those (and other) factors have made us a different team in '04?

hmmmm... :hmmm:

Let's just say Ricky still retired, and all the starters remained the same for the same games.....coaching was the only difference.

 

[ether79]

Good question Scrap. I think it raises some interesting theories...

for instance, if Bates had been HC instead of Wanny, would Ricky have retired? would AJ been named starter day1? would those (and other) factors have made us a different team in '04?

hmmmm... :hmmm:

Yeah it does. I think it's hard to look back and give exact answers. I think in reference to wins that we might have won 2 more, maybe 3 with better gameplanning on both sides of the ball.

 

[NJFINSFAN1]

I think we would have had a better record, 6-10, 7-9 maybe? But, I think we have a brighter future with Saban then we would have had with Bates, and I loved Bates, and didn't really like Saban. But I can't complain with what he has done at all! But if Bates went say 6-10, Wayne would have kept him, if Wayne has a fault, he is loyal.

 

[Scrap]

I think we would have had a better record, 6-10, 7-9 maybe? But, I think we have a brighter future with Saban then we would have had with Bates, and I loved Bates, and didn't really like Saban. But I can't complain with what he has done at all! But if Bates went say 6-10, Wayne would have kept him, if Wayne has a fault, he is loyal.

I like what Saban has done thus far. I won't try to compare him and Bates.

 

[ohall]

Maybe 5-11 or 6-10, but without Wicky this team was doomed.

 

[Philter25]

I agree with Ohall. 5-11, 6-10 maybe.


Without Ricky and a shambles of an Oline, this team had nothing. The defense couldnt do it all last year.

 

[GWNFinfan]

6-10. The one thing (I don't like saying good thing because losing sucks) about last season is it exposed our flaws and Wanny once and for all, and now we can get back on the right path.

 

[DuderinoN703]

We might pull a win or two out of our butts so I'd say 5-11, and maybe 6-10. Ricky leaving really sealed our doomed fate. But if he would've stayed, we might've been floating near .500

 

[Superself]

i think the reason bates/the team was so successful in the end of the season was bc he was a change of pace...a step in the different direction...etc...although i think bates has tremendous potential i do not think the outcome would have been much different...

Good point.

I agree.