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If priority #1 is get Tua/Terron back, then priority #2 is improve these two bottom-dwelling categories

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Losing Tua for three weeks has been painful but we’re fortunate to be 3-3 after going against the toughest strength of schedule in the league. Getting healthy Tua and Terron back should dramatically improve our play but we’ve still got work to do to consistently compete against top tier teams.

McDaniel said injuries are no excuse for poor performance and how fewer penalties and more forced turnovers are the way to control outcomes.

Penalties (https://www.nflpenalties.com/)
  • Miami has the 5th most penalties in the league with 43. (Note: 28% were pre-snap.)
  • No wonder it feels like the refs are calling a lopsided game! The Fins have the poorest against/beneficiary -19 penalty differential and it’s not close—the next nearest team is -15. Miami also has a league high 8 declined penalties.
  • Connor Williams leads the team with 4 total penalties which puts him on pace for ~12. Interestingly, this is the same level from last year with the Cowboys. FYI: another Dolphins off-season OL target, La’el Collins, is on pace for 15.
  • Last year, Austin Jackson lead the team with 13 penalties.
Turnovers (https://www.footballdb.com/stats/turnovers.html?sort=takeint)
  • Ranked 31st in both categories
    • total fumble/interception takeaways (with 5)
    • Total giveaway/takeaway differential (minus 5).
  • Total Interceptions have hurt the most
    • Takeaways = 1, tied for 32nd
    • Giveaways = 7, tied for 31st
I tried to find a source for cumulative YTD injuries by team but couldn’t locate anything beyond who is currently injured.
 
Getting Armstead/Tua back will help with both of those issues. Penalties and Turnovers have both increased in the last 3 weeks with Tua out and Armstead missing 2/3 games
 
Miami151 said:
Losing Tua for three weeks has been painful but we’re fortunate to be 3-3 after going against the toughest strength of schedule in the league. Getting healthy Tua and Terron back should dramatically improve our play but we’ve still got work to do to consistently compete against top tier teams.

McDaniel said injuries are no excuse for poor performance and how fewer penalties and more forced turnovers are the way to control outcomes.

Penalties (https://www.nflpenalties.com/)
  • Miami has the 5th most penalties in the league with 43. (Note: 28% were pre-snap.)
  • No wonder it feels like the refs are calling a lopsided game! The Fins have the poorest against/beneficiary -19 penalty differential and it’s not close—the next nearest team is -15. Miami also has a league high 8 declined penalties.
  • Connor Williams leads the team with 4 total penalties which puts him on pace for ~12. Interestingly, this is the same level from last year with the Cowboys. FYI: another Dolphins off-season OL target, La’el Collins, is on pace for 15.
  • Last year, Austin Jackson lead the team with 13 penalties.
Turnovers (https://www.footballdb.com/stats/turnovers.html?sort=takeint)
  • Ranked 31st in both categories
    • total fumble/interception takeaways (with 5)
    • Total giveaway/takeaway differential (minus 5).
  • Total Interceptions have hurt the most
    • Takeaways = 1, tied for 32nd
    • Giveaways = 7, tied for 31st
I tried to find a source for cumulative YTD injuries by team but couldn’t locate anything beyond who is currently injured.
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XACTLY!! Tangentially, TOs has some correlation to pass rush which has been noticeably weak. Nonetheless, both can improve with coaching emphasis.
 
Alex Thrasher said:
Getting Armstead/Tua back will help with both of those issues. Penalties and Turnovers have both increased in the last 3 weeks with Tua out and Armstead missing 2/3 games
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that should help on offense but not our defense. Our defense is just not making enough big plays this year(INT's,FR,Sacks) and that has to change
 
To that point, it feels like Miami essentially gave away games against Cincinnati and Minnesota. In other words, the Dolphins lost those games more than the Bengals and Vikings won them.

Obviously, that has to change if Miami is to make a playoff run. It's really the most disappointing aspect of the season to date. Miami had a chance against Minnesota despite being without Tua, Armstead etc.

Moving forward, I think tge Dolphins have to draft a tackle high. Armstead is great, but he misses a lot of time.
 
Miami151 said:
Losing Tua for three weeks has been painful but we’re fortunate to be 3-3 after going against the toughest strength of schedule in the league. Getting healthy Tua and Terron back should dramatically improve our play but we’ve still got work to do to consistently compete against top tier teams.

McDaniel said injuries are no excuse for poor performance and how fewer penalties and more forced turnovers are the way to control outcomes.

Penalties (https://www.nflpenalties.com/)
  • Miami has the 5th most penalties in the league with 43. (Note: 28% were pre-snap.)
  • No wonder it feels like the refs are calling a lopsided game! The Fins have the poorest against/beneficiary -19 penalty differential and it’s not close—the next nearest team is -15. Miami also has a league high 8 declined penalties.
  • Connor Williams leads the team with 4 total penalties which puts him on pace for ~12. Interestingly, this is the same level from last year with the Cowboys. FYI: another Dolphins off-season OL target, La’el Collins, is on pace for 15.
  • Last year, Austin Jackson lead the team with 13 penalties.
Turnovers (https://www.footballdb.com/stats/turnovers.html?sort=takeint)
  • Ranked 31st in both categories
    • total fumble/interception takeaways (with 5)
    • Total giveaway/takeaway differential (minus 5).
  • Total Interceptions have hurt the most
    • Takeaways = 1, tied for 32nd
    • Giveaways = 7, tied for 31st
I tried to find a source for cumulative YTD injuries by team but couldn’t locate anything beyond who is currently injured.
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Yep I’ve been beothching about penalties this week - I believe it was the single biggest reason we lost to a Vikes team that we held to 234 yards of offense. Beat ourselves. I still say that’s coaching. When you don’t beat yourself you have a chance in alms or every game.
 
This is very true. Our defense is not good on paper. Obviously we’re lacking in cornerback play right now but our linebackers haven’t been helping out either. I think that’s part of the problem with the pass rush.
 
Danny said:
that should help on offense but not our defense. Our defense is just not making enough big plays this year(INT's,FR,Sacks) and that has to change
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True but do we really need all that of they are dominating like they did the vikes and forcing 3 and outs? As long as the o can score
 
SF Dolphin Fan said:
Moving forward, I think tge Dolphins have to draft a tackle high. Armstead is great, but he misses a lot of time.
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Seems nice in concept except it’s pretty well documented how poorly Chris Grier identifies/selects OL from the draft.

It would have to be a can’t miss 1st round pick otherwise we just need to load them up from FA, I’m afraid.
 
eMCee85 said:
True but do we really need all that of they are dominating like they did the vikes and forcing 3 and outs? As long as the o can score
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yeah but that was one game.....let's see if they can keep it going now......of course this is the "softer" part of our schedule so our defense could look like they got it but then we'll have to see about the last several games and see how they do there.
 
Atila said:
Seems nice in concept except it’s pretty well documented how poorly Chris Grier identifies/selects OL from the draft.

It would have to be a can’t miss 1st round pick otherwise we just need to load them up from FA, I’m afraid.
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Maybe Miami gets better on offensive line evaluation with McDaniel? Obviously, we don't really know yet where his drafting strengths may lie.
 
Miami151 said:
Losing Tua for three weeks has been painful but we’re fortunate to be 3-3 after going against the toughest strength of schedule in the league. Getting healthy Tua and Terron back should dramatically improve our play but we’ve still got work to do to consistently compete against top tier teams.

McDaniel said injuries are no excuse for poor performance and how fewer penalties and more forced turnovers are the way to control outcomes.

Penalties (https://www.nflpenalties.com/)
  • Miami has the 5th most penalties in the league with 43. (Note: 28% were pre-snap.)
  • No wonder it feels like the refs are calling a lopsided game! The Fins have the poorest against/beneficiary -19 penalty differential and it’s not close—the next nearest team is -15. Miami also has a league high 8 declined penalties.
  • Connor Williams leads the team with 4 total penalties which puts him on pace for ~12. Interestingly, this is the same level from last year with the Cowboys. FYI: another Dolphins off-season OL target, La’el Collins, is on pace for 15.
  • Last year, Austin Jackson lead the team with 13 penalties.
Turnovers (https://www.footballdb.com/stats/turnovers.html?sort=takeint)
  • Ranked 31st in both categories
    • total fumble/interception takeaways (with 5)
    • Total giveaway/takeaway differential (minus 5).
  • Total Interceptions have hurt the most
    • Takeaways = 1, tied for 32nd
    • Giveaways = 7, tied for 31st
I tried to find a source for cumulative YTD injuries by team but couldn’t locate anything beyond who is currently injured.
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Those DB's are terrible in coverage, I think they believe that they're supposed to allow a catch and then tackle, X is getting whipped off the LOS and he's never been a fleet footed CB, Josh Boyer is not a in the game moment adjuster. IGbinogonie needs to be fired or play another position.
 
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