If the Dolphins were really trying to trade Beck...

[Mr. Magoo]

Wouldn't they be playing him in the preseason, if for no other reason to showcase him for potential suitors? I mean, Beck can, if nothing else, manage a game. Doesn't keeping him on the sidelines completely hinder whatever trade value he might have, given the relative lack of tape other teams have on him in anything but a 1-15 talent environment?

Perhaps what we're seeing, instead, is the Dolphins giving Henne the best look they can to see if he would be viable in the #2 spot, a situation that would render McCown (who has no trade value) unnecessary, allowing the team to keep Beck and develop him for another year.

That's the only situation I can see where the team's actions make sense. If Henne can't cut it as the backup, they have to keep McCown around. If they feel okay with Henne and/or Beck as backups, McCown can go.

Another note, for the "Beck has been given a fair shot" people: if we hold Sparano to his word that only reps "under fire" are really worth evaluating, how does Beck's nine (fairly effective) throws this preseason count as anything but a bye-your-leave.

 

[finfan54]

Wouldn't they be playing him in the preseason, if for no other reason to showcase him for potential suitors? I mean, Beck can, if nothing else, manage a game. Doesn't keeping him on the sidelines completely hinder whatever trade value he might have, given the relative lack of tape other teams have on him in anything but a 1-15 talent environment?

Perhaps what we're seeing, instead, is the Dolphins giving Henne the best look they can to see if he would be viable in the #2 spot, a situation that would render McCown (who has no trade value) unnecessary, allowing the team to keep Beck and develop him for another year.

That's the only situation I can see where the team's actions make sense. If Henne can't cut it as the backup, they have to keep McCown around. If they feel okay with Henne and/or Beck as backups, McCown can go.

Another note, for the "Beck has been given a fair shot" people: if we hold Sparano to his word that only reps "under fire" are really worth evaluating, how does Beck's nine (fairly effective) throws this preseason count as anything but a bye-your-leave.

That would be the smart thing to do

 

[Bumrush]

Wouldn't they be playing him in the preseason, if for no other reason to showcase him for potential suitors? I mean, Beck can, if nothing else, manage a game. Doesn't keeping him on the sidelines completely hinder whatever trade value he might have, given the relative lack of tape other teams have on him in anything but a 1-15 talent environment?

Perhaps what we're seeing, instead, is the Dolphins giving Henne the best look they can to see if he would be viable in the #2 spot, a situation that would render McCown (who has no trade value) unnecessary, allowing the team to keep Beck and develop him for another year.

That's the only situation I can see where the team's actions make sense. If Henne can't cut it as the backup, they have to keep McCown around. If they feel okay with Henne and/or Beck as backups, McCown can go.

Another note, for the "Beck has been given a fair shot" people: if we hold Sparano to his word that only reps "under fire" are really worth evaluating, how does Beck's nine (fairly effective) throws this preseason count as anything but a bye-your-leave.

Perhaps they don't want Beck to get injured. Either way sitting him on the bench can't help his case.. Then again if he is seen as out of the picture, perhaps management does not want to waste any preseason time showcasing someone that is a lame duck. It would really suck if someone like Davone Bess got cut if Beck came in a pulled a Beck by not showcasing his WR's talents.

 

[tcdrover]

I think it's a case of serious diminishing returns...

The more teams get to see of Beck on film, the less they will be willing to give for him. :d-day:

 

[Pinkboy]

I am not really a fan of "showcasing" lame duck players.. As Bumrush pointed out, it hurts other aspects of your team... Just play the guys who you will go to war with, prepare them, and go forward..

 

[GoonBoss]

My opinion...JMO..No "inside info" or anything...I just don't think Beck has any worth in trade. I believe the most upside he has is sticking with the team. I thought for a while it was a tossup between Beck and Mccown being gone, but, now I believe it will be McCowan gone. I've got to believe the staff will want to keep young, upside brains and arms behind Pennington. The value is in keeping Beck and seeing how he'll pan out.

 

[Bumrush]

I think it's a case of serious diminishing returns...

The more teams get to see of Beck on film, the less they will be willing to give for him. :d-day:

I don't see how you can diminish from a potential 7th round pick. Perhaps if we play him next week someone will trade him for a bag of popcorn and a 30 day Weight Watchers subscription for Parcells

 

[finfan54]

I think it's a case of serious diminishing returns...

The more teams get to see of Beck on film, the less they will be willing to give for him. :d-day:

No, its a case of Sparano wants to see his starters get more time. Period. That is what the man said. He also said it is quite possible that we may keep 4 QB's.

So I guess diminishing returns could just be something you and others have conjured up in your head....for now.

Beck is clearly better than MCclown. Thats about all that needs to be said.

 

[Bumrush]

No, its a case of Sparano wants to see his starters get more time. Period. That is what the man said. He also said it is quite possible that we may keep 4 QB's.

So I guess diminishing returns could just be something you and others have conjured up in your head....for now.

Beck is clearly better than MCclown. Thats about all that needs to be said.

Wrong. Clearly Beck performed at a very high level in college. There is NOTHING clear about what he has done in the NFL. What is clear is that Beck did not warrant a 2nd round pick.

 

[Marino613]

I really have no idea what they are planning to do with McBeck. I know this isn't informative beyond it being my opinion that there is not much to go on to know what will happen. There have been a lot of rumors about shopping him, so maybe they are trying that. That they didn't play him doesn't tell me anything yet because maybe they will play him next week. Maybe he is just training fodder and will be cut.

I just don't know and I don't feel like I can guess anymore.

 

[JsBaugh]

Not sure if we get any camp reports this week, but it will be interesting to see who is getting the 2nd team snaps. If its still Henne then he will be backing up Penny. If its McCown/Beck getting them then its anyones guess.
After a couple of games I think they have a good idea of what Henne can do, which is manage a game, but I dont see him as a guy that is going to go in and win games right away. That leaves McCown as backup and Beck the odd man out.

 

[DownDolfin]

No, its a case of Sparano wants to see his starters get more time. Period. That is what the man said. He also said it is quite possible that we may keep 4 QB's.

So I guess diminishing returns could just be something you and others have conjured up in your head....for now.

Beck is clearly better than MCclown. Thats about all that needs to be said.

You should go and tell Miami's FO that, because John Clayton has been saying they have been trying to shop Beck since the 13th.

 

[tcdrover]

No, its a case of Sparano wants to see his starters get more time. Period. That is what the man said. He also said it is quite possible that we may keep 4 QB's.

So I guess diminishing returns could just be something you and others have conjured up in your head....for now.

Beck is clearly better than MCclown. Thats about all that needs to be said.

You might need to get a new prescription jr... :err:

Be realistic, he looked good in college, so if there were any interested teams, let them look at his college highlights. Why show your cards if you don't have to.

It shouldn't be all that hard to understand. He is being shopped to any and all teams, that is what a number of different sources have said. Too many sources for it to just be a baseless rumor...

 

[Bumrush]

You should go and tell Miami's FO that because John Clayton has been saying were trying to shop Beck since the 13th.

We may have to wait for Black Friday, think anyone will take him if we throw in a $500.00 mail-in-rebate?

 

[Mr. Magoo]

Well, certainly, if they can trade Beck (and his contract), that makes the decision easier. But what, honestly, is the point of keeping someone like McCown (who has little to no upside) behind Henne?

Keeping him on the bench only increases speculation that he will be cut outright, and as such lowers his trade value. The only thing that makes sense is the idea that they're trying to see if Henne would work as a legit #2, which would allow them to cut McCown (eating his contract, sure, but both of them got guaranteed money you'd have to eat in anything other than a trade) and allow Beck to compete with Henne next year.