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If you win superbowls with a QB and pass rushers, shouldn't we.....

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draft a QB or a pass rusher at 8?.......I know we don't want to draft the 21st best player on the board at 8 but the way the NFL is today, you need a top QB and you need pass rushers and we're lacking both big time. We have no top QB and the only pass rusher is Wake and he can't do it alone. So, at 8, shouldn't we go there?....for the record, I hope we don't take Coples and I'm not sure about Ingram tho I'd take him if we move down for more picks. I'd be fine with us taking Tannehill at 8 but don't move up for him or for anyone else for that matter. Ireland said he used free agency for back ups and depth. The draft is for starters. We have no bigger need than QB and guys that can get to the QB. I am so hoping we do the right thing on draft day.

Ozzy rules!!
 
I agree in that I want pass rushers as well, but i'm starting to think that there is good value in the later rounds for that position, as well as qb. Coples is starting to decline in my eyes and Ingram is not a top 10 pick. We need a starter with that pick, so if its Decastro or Floyd or whoever, that person needs to be ready to be put in right away. Tannehill goes against that and he's not too far off qbs that can be taken later.
 
That's why I'd trade down. Get your pass rusher later in the first round and let someone else jump on the over inflated value of Tannehill.
 
question if you were the pats, or jets or bills, would weeden or tannehill scare you? no, you would hope we reach and take them at 8...

no matter what the BPA is you take it (unless its an olineman or dLineman), unless you can pick up a few draft picks trading down...
 
question if you were the pats, or jets or bills, would weeden or tannehill scare you? no, you would hope we reach and take them at 8...

no matter what the BPA is you take it (unless its an olineman or dLineman), unless you can pick up a few draft picks trading down...

I don't think you take Tannehill to throw him in there and have him lead you to the playoffs. He's not meant to scare anyone, not yet. He's meant to develop. But I just don't like taking a guy who's value is clearly over inflated because so many teams need QB's and the best two are going off the board right away.
 
This kind of goes back to what I was saying in another thread Danny...

I want as close to a guarantee as possible that my top 10 pick will net a pro-bowl/elite caliber player. Which pass rusher or QB in this draft would you be willing to put your $$ on the line for?
 
This kind of goes back to what I was saying in another thread Danny...

I want as close to a guarantee as possible that my top 10 pick will net a pro-bowl/elite caliber player. Which pass rusher or QB in this draft would you be willing to put your $$ on the line for?

I get your point but if you keep on drafting "safe" picks, you'll keep on watching other teams in the playoffs. We took Long cause he was the safe pick. Ok, he's been a very good LT for us and we've still had 3 losing seasons in a row. Is this his fault? No. But we need a QB and pass rushers and yes, sometimes you over draft those. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. But we need to try it a different way cause what we've been doing has not worked. Definition of insanity. Do the same thing and expect a different result. I don't want the "safe" pick. I want the players that will help us win a superbowl and that's not a guard or an ILB.

Ozzy rules!!
 
I get your point but if you keep on drafting "safe" picks, you'll keep on watching other teams in the playoffs. We took Long cause he was the safe pick. Ok, he's been a very good LT for us and we've still had 3 losing seasons in a row. Is this his fault? No. But we need a QB and pass rushers and yes, sometimes you over draft those. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. But we need to try it a different way cause what we've been doing has not worked. Definition of insanity. Do the same thing and expect a different result. I don't want the "safe" pick. I want the players that will help us win a superbowl and that's not a guard or an ILB.

Ozzy rules!!

I don't disagree with that - you have to take carefully-weighed risks. Which player do you feel is worth the risk? I think the situation has to be right to take a risk. Whether it's your job security as GM, your team's overall needs, draft prospects that year, whatever. You don't have to take a risk in every draft just because you should take a risk once in a while. It's perhaps time for Ireland to take a risk, but maybe it's not the right draft to do that. If he does take a risk for the sake of taking a risk, he might be ensuring his risk is bigger than it needs to be.

Risk is a funny word.
 
I don't disagree with that - you have to take carefully-weighed risks. Which player do you feel is worth the risk? I think the situation has to be right to take a risk. Whether it's your job security as GM, your team's overall needs, draft prospects that year, whatever. You don't have to take a risk in every draft just because you should take a risk once in a while. It's perhaps time for Ireland to take a risk, but maybe it's not the right draft to do that. If he does take a risk for the sake of taking a risk, he might be ensuring his risk is bigger than it needs to be.

Risk is a funny word.
Ok, I'd take a chance on Tannehill at 8. If he's not there then I'd try to move down and then draft the top pass rusher on the board. BTW, I don't mind that we don't agree on everything but this combo has been classy and without any attacks and that's cool....in the end, it doesn't really matter what we think cause Ireland is going to do what he wants anyway....lol

Ozzy rules!!
 
I would love to see Tannehill taken by Cleveland at 4 and Trent Richardson drop to us and we trade down for a kings ransom with Cleveland at 22 and get the 37 and there 1st next year. Then take Weeden or Mercilus there. That would be a dream situation for me.
 
I hope why can just fix the QB for good tann or weeden

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