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Implications Of The Zach Wilson Signing

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Wilson is still not ready. Forget the Jets for a second (although that is not even a great excuse Mike White was worse for us than he was for them). He was on Denver last year. Sean Payton was the coach. Payton knows QBs. Zach Wilson not only couldn't beat out a rookie in Bo Nix, he couldn't beat out Jarret Stidham, who is barely qualified to be a backup. Wilson was #3, and didn't even take a snap. He is still a project QB. Yes, he has theoretical ceiling based on his athletic ability. But right now, he is not ready. And he is not a system fit, there is nothing quick about Zach Wilson's game. He holds the ball a long time, and doesn't seem to know what to do with it. Sean Payton let him go, and went with Jarret Stidham instead. If we signed Stidham as a backup, people around here would be sorely disappointed.

Takeaway #1

It seems very challenging to argue that if the Dolphins want to win games this year, if/when Tua gets hurt, that Zach Wilson is the best backup available to come in and win games now. There are backups that are better system fits and with a better track record and more experience that are more well positioned to help us win now if Tua got hurt, and they might even be cheaper. Heck, Andy Dalton just got only 2 years and $8mm from Carolina. Minshew, Mariota, etc are all better QBs now. The Dolphins therefore have somewhat written off this season and don't fully believe in their own prospects. Even after what happened last year with the backups. Zach Wilson is about the future, not about the now. That much is obvious. The fact that the Dolphins signed a QB who is not the best positioned to help them win games if Tua gets hurt is interesting, and tells you what the Dolphins really think about their own prospects this year. Zach Wilson is not about this year.

Takeaway #2

Despite their public comments of support and belief in Tua, the Dolphins have lost some confidence in him, and worry he is not the guy, either injury related or the limitations to his game (arm, scrambling). They signed Zach Wilson as a flier given his theoretical future potential. They want to see if there is anything there, and if he is potentially a Tua replacement post 2026 after two years of development time if they think there is something there. That is what Zach Wilson is about. They are rolling the dice on a future starting QB based on his theoretical potential.

I give this all about a 1% chance of working (Josh Rosen 2.0), but if you view things through this lens, the Zach Wilson signing makes somewhat more sense.
 
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Avigatorx said:
If it was about the future they would have given him more than a 1 year contract.

No this is about the present, and more proof that Grier/McDaniel have no plan going forward.
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i think the one year contract shows they are not that confident in wilson and he really is just a flier. the one year contract still gives them the option to sign/extend him if they start feeling really good about him over the course of the year. they paid a fair bit for this one year deal too, given his track record.
 
Zach Wilson is a much better prospect than Josh Rosen. Rosen had a weak arm, like Tua.

I can't wait to see how this plays out, it's a win/win situation. He sucks and we get the regime change and high draft pick or he rids us of having the most one dimensional QB in the league.
 
The Ghost said:
Zach Wilson has beaten the Bills more recently than we have, just throwing that out there.
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What does that have to do with how good Zach Wilson really is? The defense had something to do with beating the Bills that night as well.
 
MrChadRico said:
Zach Wilson is a much better prospect than Josh Rosen. Rosen had a weak arm, like Tua.

I can't wait to see how this plays out, it's a win/win situation. He sucks and we get the regime change and high draft pick or he rids us of having the most one dimensional QB in the league.
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I agree. If it works out then we’ll have a shot in the games Tua inevitably misses. If he sucks, then the new GM can re-sign him to the same deal next offseason to lead to tank for Arch in 2027 assuming he stays in school.
 
MrChadRico said:
Zach Wilson is a much better prospect than Josh Rosen. Rosen had a weak arm, like Tua.

I can't wait to see how this plays out, it's a win/win situation. He sucks and we get the regime change and high draft pick or he rids us of having the most one dimensional QB in the league.
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By comparing him to Josh Rosen I wasn't trying to compare attributes, just comparing him to another highly drafted QB that didnt work out. At least we didnt give up a 2nd rounder for Wilson. Rosen thing was idiotic. Typical Grier. Bid against himself, way overpaid with draft capital, for a guy that obviously sucked. Then they had no plan. If the idea was to tank, you dont sign Fitzpatrick, and you make Josh Rosen play, and lose every game. But they never were on the same page with Flores. That is all they had to do, and Joe Burrow would be our QB. IDIOTS!!!!
 
phinsforlife said:
Wilson is still not ready. Forget the Jets for a second (although that is not even a great excuse Mike White was worse for us than he was for them). He was on Denver last year. Sean Payton was the coach. Payton knows QBs. Zach Wilson not only couldn't beat out a rookie in Bo Nix, he couldn't beat out Jarret Stidham, who is barely qualified to be a backup. Wilson was #3, and didn't even take a snap. He is still a project QB. Yes, he has theoretical ceiling based on his athletic ability. But right now, he is not ready. And he is not a system fit, there is nothing quick about Zach Wilson's game. He holds the ball a long time, and doesn't seem to know what to do with it. Sean Payton let him go, and went with Jarret Stidham instead. If we signed Stidham as a backup, people around here would be sorely disappointed.

Takeaway #1

It seems very challenging to argue that if the Dolphins want to win games this year, if/when Tua gets hurt, that Zach Wilson is the best backup available to come in and win games now. There are backups that are better system fits and with a better track record and more experience that are more well positioned to help us win now if Tua got hurt, and they might even be cheaper. Heck, Andy Dalton just got only 2 years and $8mm from Carolina. Minshew, Mariota, etc are all better QBs now. The Dolphins therefore have somewhat written off this season and don't fully believe in their own prospects. Even after what happened last year with the backups. Zach Wilson is about the future, not about the now. That much is obvious. The fact that the Dolphins signed a QB who is not the best positioned to help them win games if Tua gets hurt is interesting, and tells you what the Dolphins really think about their own prospects this year. Zach Wilson is not about this year.

Takeaway #2

Despite their public comments of support and belief in Tua, the Dolphins have lost some confidence in him, and worry he is not the guy, either injury related or the limitations to his game (arm, scrambling). They signed Zach Wilson as a flier given his theoretical future potential. They want to see if there is anything there, and if he is potentially a Tua replacement post 2026 after two years of development time if they think there is something there. That is what Zach Wilson is about. They are rolling the dice on a future starting QB based on his theoretical potential.

I give this all about a 1% chance of working (Josh Rosen 2.0), but if you view things through this lens, the Zach Wilson signing makes somewhat more sense.
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Denver wanted to re-sign Wilson as well as Stidham, but he decided he'd rather be the QB2 in Miami than the QB3 in Denver, that is if their depth chart remained intact.
 
MrClean said:
Denver wanted to re-sign Wilson as well as Stidham, but he decided he'd rather be the QB2 in Miami than the QB3 in Denver, that is if their depth chart remained intact.
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Not sure how you know that, but doesn't change any of the points. Denver viewed him as less good than Stidham. Payton knows QBs. Zach Wilson, if you want to win games this year, is not the best backup to do it. Wilson is about the future, not the now.
 
MrClean said:
Denver wanted to re-sign Wilson as well as Stidham, but he decided he'd rather be the QB2 in Miami than the QB3 in Denver, that is if their depth chart remained intact.
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Ok, but if he was #3 in Denver, do you think there is a better #2 out there?
 
Its a one year deal so I don't think it's about the future. This just feels like when we signed mike white who oddly enough replaced zach wilson in NY when Wilson was benched.

I think it's just Grier and mcdnaiel getting it wrong, again. But we shall see.
 
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