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In depth look at Kenneth Grant and Draft Grades/Reactions

Dane Brugler had Grant as the number 3 DT and 25th overall prospect:

A two-year starter at Michigan, Grant was an interchangeable defensive tackle in defensive coordinator Wink Martindale’s four-man front, lining up as both a three-technique and nose tackle. He went viral during the 2023 season when he chased down Penn State running back Kaytron Allen in the open field, and he was a steady presence on the Wolverines’ defensive line the past two seasons.

A dominant run presence, Grant is a powerful boulder who can execute two-gap techniques or stack single blocks and work down the line with quickness. He looks to fire off the ball, although his tall pads will negate his leverage and lower-body strength, diminishing his bull rush and limiting the ways in which he can impact the quarterback. Overall, Grant plays big in a big man’s game, but he also has the athletic traits and effort to grow into more than just a stout run stopper. He projects as an early-down NFL starter with three-down upside.
GRADE1st–2nd Round

Testing
TYPE HT WT HAND ARM WING 40 20 10 VJ BJ SS 3C BP NOTES
Combine 6035 331 101/8″ 331/2″ 825/8″ DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP 22 No jumps, 40, pos. drills (med. exclusion: right hamstring)
Pro Day 6033 330 DNP DNP DNP 5.13 3.01 1.72 31″ 8′9″ 4.76

Strengths
Wide-bodied lineman with thickness throughout and unique athleticism (“Freaks List” alum)
Moves with big-man balance and flexible hips to swim through gaps
Uses lateral range to work up and down the line
Tough to move him off his spot
Plenty of natural power behind his active, physical hands
Locks out with his arms to control blocks and muck up things inside
Rare speed and hustle for his size to close the gap when chasing ball carrier
Smoothly calms his feet on the move to gobble up ball carriers and finish tackles
Has a knack for getting his big mitts up (10 combined pass breakups past two seasons)
Not overly vocal, but the coaches say he took on more of a leadership role in 2024

Weaknesses
Slow-burn pass rusher with an undeveloped plan if his first move is ineffective
Elevated pad level will leave him uprooted and neutralized post-snap
Delivers initial pop but struggles to create a consistent pocket push
Late to read blocking scheme or ball carrier at times
His weight will climb north of 350 pounds in the offseason, and his conditioning needs monitored
Didn’t miss a game because of injury in Ann Arbor but battled through right foot tendinitis as a high school senior
Tackle production (on either side of the line of scrimmage) doesn’t jump out

Background
Kenneth Grant grew up in Merrillville, Ind. (40 miles from Chicago), with his father (Kenneth Grant Sr.) and mother (Ewana Chatman), who divorced when Grant was in elementary school. He showed a natural interest in NFL football at a young age, and his mother finally allowed him to play organized football at age 8. Grant was almost always the biggest player on the field, and the coaches often needed his birth certificate ready to prove his age. There also were questions about whether or not he would make the 250-pound weight limit. He started playing for the Crowne Point Bulldogs and later joined several other teams, including the Raiders and Vikings in Pop Warner (weighed close to 300 pounds in middle school). Grant also played basketball and competed in track throughout middle school. He was recruited by Chicago-area high schools, but his mother kept him close to home.

Grant attended Merrillville High, where he was a three-sport standout. He started both ways as a freshman and made a name for himself as a sophomore with 42 tackles, three sacks and two forced fumbles. As a junior, Grant helped Merrillville to a 10-2 record and the 2020 conference title, finishing with six tackles for loss, three sacks and a 50-yard fumble recovery for a touchdown. Despite dealing with tendinitis in his right foot, he had his best season as a 350-pound senior and was named 2021 conference defensive player of the year (38 tackles, 14.5 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks, four forced fumbles, four blocked field goals, two blocked extra points and two blocked punts). He also started at left guard as part of an offensive line that blocked for running back Lavarion Logan, who set the school’s single-season and career rushing records before signing with Illinois State in the 2022 class. Merrillville enjoyed its first undefeated regular season in more than 30 years and finished with a 12-1 record, falling in the semifinals of the 2021 state playoffs.

Grant also lettered in basketball at track at Merrillville and had personal bests of 60 feet, 4 inches in the shot put and 55-0 in the discus, advancing to the state championships in both events.

A three-star recruit, Grant was the 59th-ranked defensive lineman in the 2022 recruiting class and the No. 10 recruit in Indiana. His recruitment started to take off after his sophomore year, when he received offers from Cincinnati and Purdue in the summer of 2020. After his junior season, Arizona State, Illinois, Michigan, Nebraska and Wisconsin joined the mix. Grant visited Columbus (and was considered an Ohio State lean) before committing to Michigan midway through his senior season. He was the 11th-ranked recruit in former head coach Jim Harbaugh’s 2022 class. Grant became best friends and roommates with Mason Graham at Michigan. He opted out of Michigan’s bowl game and accepted an invitation to the East-West Shrine Bowl but didn’t participate.
 
Who writes these things. Under the very first graphic of Grant in page 1, under weaknesses they list this

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Yea I saw that and was dying laughing…obviously a typo but still hilarious, we have our emergency QB on the roster apparently.

The thought of Grant in shotgun formation rolling right to throw a pass or running the Wildcat is objectively hilarious.

Seriously though, if we do use him on offense I think he’d be great in the role Wilkins did for us, short yardage/goaline lead FB
 
Matt Miller continues to have a hard on for us every time a negative question is asked. Everyone also loves the Pats draft

Who was the biggest head-scratching pick of the draft?​

Miller: Defensive tackle Kenneth Grant to the Dolphins (No. 13). This was both a poor value -- Grant was an early-Round 2 player for me -- and a luxury, given the Dolphins' needs at cornerback and safety. Grant is certainly a good player, but the value just felt off.

 
Change that culture Kenny! Attaboy i love this kid already




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Nothing to do with "body positivity". Dude is 340! It's a legitimate question if he can handle the heat and humidity. It's a tad hotter than Ann Arbor, MI. It's probably affected big lineman down here more than we know.
Tim Bowens handled the heat. Daryl Gardener handled the heat. Larry Chester handled the heat. Paul Soliai handled the heat.
 
Yea that was me 😂

Also was talking to Ryan Smith of PFF on twitter this morning and he posted the stats


... then you add Seiler, Phillips, and Chubb to the front 7.

The guy hasn't played a snap in the NFL, and fans are expecting Chris Jones.

On paper, it looks like the two additions on the DL have potential AND veteran help/leadership.
If their resume lives up to expectations, the move is a win-win.
I don't like ifs and buts, so yeah, at this point, everything is a reach because the team is reaching for a lot of help based on past performance, injuries, depth, and even competent starters.

There's really "nothing to see here" for now. It's not a reach to look at the move(s) objectively and see a clear direction the team wanted to go.
Secondary aside for a second, when the front 7 is stopping the run game while pressuring the QB, good things happen.

For me, the best thing that could happen is:
The defense drops its PPG to around 15
The offense is given more opportunities

I wanted Harmon. I'm happy with the position selections. Let's hope ( 🤮 ) the rooks live up to their billing. :cheers:
 
Matt Miller continues to have a hard on for us every time a negative question is asked. Everyone also loves the Pats draft

Who was the biggest head-scratching pick of the draft?​

Miller: Defensive tackle Kenneth Grant to the Dolphins (No. 13). This was both a poor value -- Grant was an early-Round 2 player for me -- and a luxury, given the Dolphins' needs at cornerback and safety. Grant is certainly a good player, but the value just felt off.

I'm amused at how many of these guys just don't know what they are looking at and they make a living somehow.
 
Who cares what these people think? They’re all such geniuses until, like every year, guys they never thought of are league busting talents, and guys they slobber over flunk out of the league… these prognosticators have quite the job! Buffoonery!
 
Tim Bowens handled the heat. Daryl Gardener handled the heat. Larry Chester handled the heat. Paul Soliai handled the heat.
Timbo and Gardner played 30 years ago. Different mindset back then. Both came from south if I recall. Paul Soliai was a baller but he was a 2-down player, right?
 
Who cares what these people think? They’re all such geniuses until, like every year, guys they never thought of are league busting talents, and guys they slobber over flunk out of the league… these prognosticators have quite the job! Buffoonery!
The Dolphins are one of those teams that don't get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the draft. If Philadelphia or Baltimore had the same draft, I bet the grades would be higher and the narrative would be a little different.

As it is, even the most knowledgeable draft gurus are wrong a lot. It definitely feels like a step in the right direction for me, at least in terms of physicality and focusing on the trenches.
 
Timbo and Gardner played 30 years ago. Different mindset back then. Both came from south if I recall. Paul Soliai was a baller but he was a 2-down player, right?
Different mindset, such as more intense practices with full pads and tackling to the ground from Day 1. Trying to justify the notion that Grant will wilt in the heat due to his size amounts to nonsense.
 
This was a terrible reach, and there was tons of talent on the board, first round picks are for studs, especially top 15. Everyone had Grant in the mid 20s at best.
What a goofy f'ingnotion. Typical.
 
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I am just tired of drafting players in the first round with "Upside" or as you stated "refined 3rd down pass rushing situations", I would have taken Warren and had him an Smith running double tight end sets ALL DAY LONG. Perfect for Tuas quick hits. Plus Warren is the same size a Gronk and can block, so he would help our OL tremendously. It was a bad reach and pick and all analysts appear to agree. To get a C or C- on a 13th pick is just embarrasing.
More mindless ignorant nonsense.
 
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