In terms of Coaching character, what do you think the Dolphins are looking for?

[juniorseau55]

There is a lot of debate in here in terms of who should be the best fit for this team, and who should not be the best candidate. Without touching too much into Flores (first time head coach), there were a lot of things he brought to this team, and a lot
of things that were viewed negative based on the reports we been hearing. There are a lot of coaches we discussed, and Harbaugh is a name that has been brought up very often. If Flores tough approach on the players, and even coaching staff was
not always welcome then how would that apply to someone like Harbaugh, known for his intense style of coaching. Or are we willing to compromise for that coaching style with someone like Harbaugh, with proven results in the NFL? What do you think we are actually looking for? We are not discussing merely skills, or ability to bring a solid coaching staff to work with our deficiencies, but we are discussing personality. Think of when the Raiders fired Gruden for example, and how their team made it to the playoffs with the interim. Some players attributed the coaching staff change with better results because Bissacia didn't push things hard down their throats like Gruden did.

 

[Danny]

if history tells us something is that grier is looking to hire anybody he can be friends with.......it was said that him and flores were good friends.

 

[GhostArmOfMarino]

What are the Dolphins looking for? I wouldn't claim to know.

However, McDaniel fits the personality type I believe is best personally. So that's more or less what I want for this team.

 

[LargoFin]

A yes man, who can create success and transfer credit upwards. Essentially, a savior.

 

[Mach2]

There is a lot of debate in here in terms of who should be the best fit for this team, and who should not be the best candidate. Without touching too much into Flores (first time head coach), there were a lot of things he brought to this team, and a lot
of things that were viewed negative based on the reports we been hearing. There are a lot of coaches we discussed, and Harbaugh is a name that has been brought up very often. If Flores tough approach on the players, and even coaching staff was
not always welcome then how would that apply to someone like Harbaugh, known for his intense style of coaching. Or are we willing to compromise for that coaching style with someone like Harbaugh, with proven results in the NFL? What do you think we are actually looking for? We are not discussing merely skills, or ability to bring a solid coaching staff to work with our deficiencies, but we are discussing personality. Think of when the Raiders fired Gruden for example, and how their team made it to the playoffs with the interim. Some players attributed the coaching staff change with better results because Bissacia didn't push things hard down their throats like Gruden did.

Interesting thread premise Jr.

I'm not sure I would frame the question as one of "character" per say, more a question of leadership skills and the understanding of human nature.

Good "leaders" can come in various styles. Guys like Dungy and Vermiel would never be confused with Hard a$$ disciplinarians such as Parcels or Ditka for example.

I think the trick is (aside from actually knowing what the hell they are doing) getting guys to "buy into" the program. In sports, as in life, ppl/players are not all the same, and can not all be handled in the same manner. Some players need to have their egos stroked. Some react better to a swift kick in the butt.

Either way, you can't treat players like crap, and expect them to run through a wall for you. They have to believe there is a method to the madness. They have to understand the reason(s) you want things done a certain way. "Because I said so" is fine at lower levels, but unless a coach has proven results (BB for example), It isn't going to work for long.

There is the adage of a coach "relating" to players. I think this is often misunderstood. It doesn't mean the coach has to be of any specific background, understand social media, be up to date with current lingo, or any number of other nonsense. It means, or should mean being able to relate to the individuals what he is trying to accomplish, and why you are doing the things you are doing. That's not to say a coach has to explain himself for every tiny detail, but he needs to get the players to believe in what he is telling them.

 

[KTOWNFINFAN]

A loser. If history is any indicator Ross will only hire someone to punish the fan base. Flo was the exception which is why he had to be fired. I feel at this point it will come down between Mr Bean, or PeeWee Herman, although I do feel Elmer Fudd is still in the running, with Mr MaGoo a long shot as he seems far too lucky to take a chance with.

 

[Mach2]

What are the Dolphins looking for? I wouldn't claim to know.

However, McDaniel fits the personality type I believe is best personally. So that's more or less what I want for this team.

Do any of us really know the personality type of any of these guys? Seeing someone on a podium in front of the media is not necessarily a true picture of someone.

I'll put it like this. Have you ever dated a girl (or guy?) that was awesome? You got along fine, everything was fun, sex was great and plentiful?

THEN you moved in together, and all the little idiosyncrasies (for both parties) came to the forefront.

 

[GhostArmOfMarino]

Interesting thread premise Jr.

I'm not sure I would frame the question as one of "character" per say, more a question of leadership skills and the understanding of human nature.

Good "leaders" can come in various styles. Guys like Dungy and Vermiel would never be confused with Hard a$$ disciplinarians such as Parcels or Ditka for example.

I think the trick is (aside from actually knowing what the hell they are doing) getting guys to "buy into" the program. In sports, as in life, ppl/players are not all the same, and can not all be handled in the same manner. Some players need to have their egos stroked. Some react better to a swift kick in the butt.

Either way, you can't treat players like crap, and expect them to run through a wall for you. They have to believe there is a method to the madness. They have to understand the reason(s) you want things done a certain way. "Because I said so" is fine at lower levels, but unless a coach has proven results (BB for example), It isn't going to work for long.

There is the adage of a coach "relating" to players. I think this is often misunderstood. It doesn't mean the coach has to be of any specific background, understand social media, be up to date with current lingo, or any number of other nonsense. It means, or should mean being able to relate to the individuals what he is trying to accomplish, and why you are doing the things you are doing. That's not to say a coach has to explain himself for every tiny detail, but he needs to get the players to believe in what he is telling them.

I think you're going to see a lot less success in the future from really hard ass coaches.

The NFL isn't a macho man league anymore. One of the players on the (Titans or Texans, forget which it was a game they played) came on the field wearing a headband in reference to the Naruto anime. Players are "nerds" too now.

It's not 1970s HS football where you could step on a guy and push him into the mud.

People my age and younger just don't respond well (generally speaking) to that super tough style. Our general view is in one ear and out the other if you are constantly just yelling about ****.

Not to say there isn't a time and place for tough love and discipline, there is, but I just can't see those tough guy coaches having success as the world progresses, not just the NFL.

 

[Tua808]

They’re looking for a fall guy

 

[EasyRider]

Who really cares. And who knows what they are looking for. If communication was the problem then that pretty much answers your question. And if those rumors are true, then yes, I want a guy who speaks to his assistance on a daily basis and one who embraces his QB whether he likes him or not.

 

[volk]

They are looking for a warm body that gets along with everyone and doesn't make waves.

 

[Ray R]

I think you're going to see a lot less success in the future from really hard *** coaches.

The NFL isn't a macho man league anymore. One of the players on the (Titans or Texans, forget which it was a game they played) came on the field wearing a headband in reference to the Naruto anime. Players are "nerds" too now.

It's not 1970s HS football where you could step on a guy and push him into the mud.

People my age and younger just don't respond well (generally speaking) to that super tough style. Our general view is in one ear and out the other if you are constantly just yelling about ****.

Not to say there isn't a time and place for tough love and discipline, there is, but I just can't see those tough guy coaches having success as the world progresses, not just the NFL.

We old timers have a name for the young folks that you described - WIMPS - LOL

 

[Mach2]

I think you're going to see a lot less success in the future from really hard *** coaches.

The NFL isn't a macho man league anymore. One of the players on the (Titans or Texans, forget which it was a game they played) came on the field wearing a headband in reference to the Naruto anime. Players are "nerds" too now.

It's not 1970s HS football where you could step on a guy and push him into the mud.

People my age and younger just don't respond well (generally speaking) to that super tough style. Our general view is in one ear and out the other if you are constantly just yelling about ****.

Not to say there isn't a time and place for tough love and discipline, there is, but I just can't see those tough guy coaches having success as the world progresses, not just the NFL.

I don't think that has anything at all to do with age.

It had more to do with fear.

 

[juniorseau55]

if history tells us something is that grier is looking to hire anybody he can be friends with.......it was said that him and flores were good friends.

That to me is an interesting comment my friend. I think having a relationship with the GM is important because he is the one that is going to spend a lot of the time making decisions based on what he or she feels is best. With that said, if we are dealing with someone that can't handle a coach disagreeing with them, or putting an effort to be on the same page then hopefully that isn't the case.

 

[juniorseau55]

What are the Dolphins looking for? I wouldn't claim to know.

However, McDaniel fits the personality type I believe is best personally. So that's more or less what I want for this team.

That is something we would love to know first hand if possible but that is not something we are going to hear much unless Grier himself and whatever staff he is using tells us.