Incognito held OL meetings at Strip Clubs

[JTC111]

That's why the buffalo bills are so good...

Is that really the example you want to use?

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

bet he doesn't claim it on his taxes lol

You might be surprised. These guys have people who handle their money for them, it's how most of them get robbed and wind up broke. To be honest, I don't know if or how much they deduct this stuff, or how we even got on this tangent, but IMO this entire conversation shows how much of a disconnect there is between the accepted norms and behavior between so many different groups of people.

As for if I were a GM, would I sign Richie? I might give him a chance, depending on the circumstances. Would I refuse to allow him to be on the team's leadership council? Again, depends on the circumstances. Why are Ben Roethlisberger and Michael Vick in those positions? Why were they given second chances?

That said, I think I actually have more of a problem with signing Richie than allowing him to be on the leadership council. And I know that is a strange position, but if he was genuinely a model teammate and someone who was consistently trying to get the best out of the other players, and if Joe Philbin had no clue that Jon Martin was uncomfortable with him and afraid of him, then why would Joe refute the vote?

IMO the bottom line here is that when you take a chance on giving someone a second (or third) chance, just be ready to get burned.

 

[jvw]

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You might be surprised. These guys have people who handle their money for them, it's how most of them get robbed and wind up broke. To be honest, I don't know if or how much they deduct this stuff, or how we even got on this tangent, but IMO this entire conversation shows how much of a disconnect there is between the accepted norms and behavior between so many different groups of people.

As for if I were a GM, would I sign Richie? I might give him a chance, depending on the circumstances. Would I refuse to allow him to be on the team's leadership council? Again, depends on the circumstances. Why are Ben Roethlisberger and Michael Vick in those positions? Why were they given second chances?

That said, I think I actually have more of a problem with signing Richie than allowing him to be on the leadership council. And I know that is a strange position, but if he was genuinely a model teammate and someone who was consistently trying to get the best out of the other players, and if Joe Philbin had no clue that Jon Martin was uncomfortable with him and afraid of him, then why would Joe refute the vote?

IMO the bottom line here is that when you take a chance on giving someone a second (or third) chance, just be ready to get burned.

Good answer, I think I would have him on my team but not in a leadership position....especially after he had that incident at the golf tournament, If I had to use that incident as the reason to keep him off I would....just because he's not on the leadership team doesn't mean he couldn't have a positive impact on the team...I have great respect for anyone who puts in the time and hard work to improve themselves and Richie has done that, my only problem with Richie is his decision making and because of that he would have to be a leader by example only.....

He would not be responsible for any player or conducting any meeting in my locker room....He has enough trouble taking care of Richie and that's exactly what I would tell him, you keep Richie straight don't worry about anyone else because we need you on the field on Sunday.....

 

[NCFINFAN13]

So if you were a GM and had the chance to sign Cog's would you? and would you let him be on the leadership team?

Depends on who else is available and the circumstances, and the leadership council is up to the players.