Interesting fact

[fisi]

Just something I stumbled upon and wanted to share with everyone.

In the Playoffs the combined record of Brady, Manning, Montana, Marino, Elway, Favre, Young, Staubach, Jim Kelly, Phil Simms, Warren Moon, Troy Aikman, Ben Roethlisberger when their defenses have given up 37 or more points? It's 0-24.
http://www.footballsfuture.com

Last year our the Dolphins' defense gave up 37 points or more three times all were loses. So there you have it, folks! The main problem with this team is defense. Add any FA guard/tackle( Orlando Franklin, parhaps) to the OL and the offense is fixed. On the other hand, defense needs a lot, starting from a new DC. I mean it needs LBs, DTs, FS and CBs. Every position on that defense needs upgrading. It amuses me when i see all these mocks picking going for offensive players- Kevin White, mostly. i think our fist two or three picks should be used on defense, ditto the free agents.

 

[Sherif]

Too bad this is a weak draft for most of our needs, the Middle of the offense and Defense. All the more reason we should trade down and take BPA whether it's a corner or WR.

 

[FearTheBeard]

You could get a DT pretty easily in this draft, there's some good ones up at the top. I'm firmly in the offense camp, our defense isn't as bad as it was late in the season, and it isn't as good as it was early in the season. What I do know is that we have a franchise QB and we need to get him weapons and protect, first and foremost. That's priority one, a great offense will cover for an average defense. Glue the defense and build the offense, we could be sooo much better getting the right redzone personnel. This defense isn't gonna give up 37+ consistently, build around the QB and add pieces to the defense in FA.

 

[dolpns13]

I don't think you'll see anyone arguing that our defense was far worse than our offense

 

[nyjunc]

Just something I stumbled upon and wanted to share with everyone.

In the Playoffs the combined record of Brady, Manning, Montana, Marino, Elway, Favre, Young, Staubach, Jim Kelly, Phil Simms, Warren Moon, Troy Aikman, Ben Roethlisberger when their defenses have given up 37 or more points? It's 0-24.
http://www.footballsfuture.com

Last year our the Dolphins' defense gave up 37 points or more three times all were loses. So there you have it, folks! The main problem with this team is defense. Add any FA guard/tackle( Orlando Franklin, parhaps) to the OL and the offense is fixed. On the other hand, defense needs a lot, starting from a new DC. I mean it needs LBs, DTs, FS and CBs. Every position on that defense needs upgrading. It amuses me when i see all these mocks picking going for offensive players- Kevin White, mostly. i think our fist two or three picks should be used on defense, ditto the free agents.

There you have it? what about the other 5 losses? what about the wins when the D held down opps or scored or set up scores?

and your D only allowed 37 or more 2 times not 3. The NE game(where the O scored 13) STs allowed a TD.

Your failures came as a team, sometimes D, sometimes O, sometimes STs. D played well early,O struggled, O played better midseason, D struggled. It's not O vs. D.

 

[The Goat]

There you have it? what about the other 5 losses? what about the wins when the D held down opps or scored or set up scores?

and your D only allowed 37 or more 2 times not 3. The NE game(where the O scored 13) STs allowed a TD.

Your failures came as a team, sometimes D, sometimes O, sometimes STs. D played well early,O struggled, O played better midseason, D struggled. It's not O vs. D.

Pretty sure his point is that the team CERTAINLY doesn't win when giving up 37 points or more.

As far as the other 5 losses, I think 11-5 would have been just fine this year.

 

[Ben Had]

You could get a DT pretty easily in this draft, there's some good ones up at the top. I'm firmly in the offense camp, our defense isn't as bad as it was late in the season, and it isn't as good as it was early in the season. What I do know is that we have a franchise QB and we need to get him weapons and protect, first and foremost. That's priority one, a great offense will cover for an average defense. Glue the defense and build the offense, we could be sooo much better getting the right redzone personnel. This defense isn't gonna give up 37+ consistently, build around the QB and add pieces to the defense in FA.

I'm with you. I believe we have to build our team to win the division. The bills and Jets are gonna look for strong defense and probably ground and pound because neither have a QB yet. We need an offense that can score quickly, strong in the red zone plus keep RT upright. I hope for OL, TE & WR.

I don't want a bunch of Jets, Bills & fins defensive battles...

 

[AL R]

There is plenty of blame to go around for all the units, you could even include special teams, but would like to see our young QB with some more protection and a red zome threat so we can see what that looks like before we give him that large contract extension that's likely coming.

 

[russianbear]

not exactly earth shattering to hear that teams don't tend to win in the playoffs when they give up 37 points or more.....really weird stat man not sure I'm getting your point at all. I could take that same number and probably say something along the lines of the combined records of those quarterbacks in the playoffs when they score 37 points or more is also damn near perfect.....

but i do agree we need to sure up our defense. football though is such a balancing act, to pretend like it was only our defense that lost us game this year is a joke, and to act like our defense was top shelf and our offense was the only reason we couldn't make it, is also a joke. football is a balance on both sides. at the end of the day you need to draft effectively and stockpile talent. you can't keep swinging and missing with your first 3 rounds year after year.

 

[slk018]

Just something I stumbled upon and wanted to share with everyone.

In the Playoffs the combined record of Brady, Manning, Montana, Marino, Elway, Favre, Young, Staubach, Jim Kelly, Phil Simms, Warren Moon, Troy Aikman, Ben Roethlisberger when their defenses have given up 37 or more points? It's 0-24.
http://www.footballsfuture.com

Last year our the Dolphins' defense gave up 37 points or more three times all were loses. So there you have it, folks! The main problem with this team is defense. Add any FA guard/tackle( Orlando Franklin, parhaps) to the OL and the offense is fixed. On the other hand, defense needs a lot, starting from a new DC. I mean it needs LBs, DTs, FS and CBs. Every position on that defense needs upgrading. It amuses me when i see all these mocks picking going for offensive players- Kevin White, mostly. i think our fist two or three picks should be used on defense, ditto the free agents.

So what happened in the other 13 games??

 

[slk018]

There you have it? what about the other 5 losses? what about the wins when the D held down opps or scored or set up scores?

and your D only allowed 37 or more 2 times not 3. The NE game(where the O scored 13) STs allowed a TD.

Your failures came as a team, sometimes D, sometimes O, sometimes STs. D played well early,O struggled, O played better midseason, D struggled. It's not O vs. D.

The whole notion of blaming everything on the defense is very prevalent on here. Its another way the Tannehill happy adjusters can absolve him of any blame.
Awsi made a really interesting post about Tannehill at Texas Am. I knew Tanne has never been a winner but I didn't know they went 7-6 when they were only an underdog ONE time!
Adjust away, let some call him a younfg Tom Brady amnd pretend he is anywhere Luck, then in the next breath make excuses for him.

The Fins were 8-8 bc of the defense, offense and special teams. Every single player needs to play better, including the QB. Not stats, make plays when it matters to win games.

 

[Fins1971]

Not ground breaking that you will lose when you give up that many points.
You fail to mention that in those 3 games the offense/special teams turned the ball over in deep in our own territory leading to many of those points allowed.
(Denver 7, NE 21, Minn, 14) but its all the defenses fault.

Miami leads the AFC in games with 1 or less offensive TD (7)
Miami also leads the AFC with victories in games with 1 of less offensive TD (2)
AFC teams have scored 1 or less offensive TD's in 63 games this season during regular season
The record of those teams is 11-52 (17%)

Records of AFC teams when scoring 1 offensive TD or less

Miami 2-5
Tenn 1-6
Clev 0-6
Oak 0-6
Jags 0-6
Jets 0-5
Buff 2-2
S.D. 1-3
Hou 1-2
K.C. 1-2
Cin 1-2
Pitt 0-3
Denver 1-1
N.E. 1-1
Balt 0-1
Indy 0-1

Notice that the 6 playoff teams only have 12 of the 63 total games with 1 or less TD scored and even those playoff teams are 3-9 in those games.


Add in 3 more losses for Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and Denver during playoffs as they only scored 1 TD and lost. That makes AFC teams 11-55 when they score a single TD.

When you look at the teams we are around in this list you could also say the team could have easily been 6-10 without the defense.

I tend to think they were both at fault and will leave it at that.

 

[Bumpus]

We need to take the best talent available.

It really is just as simple as that.

 

[nyjunc]

Pretty sure his point is that the team CERTAINLY doesn't win when giving up 37 points or more.

As far as the other 5 losses, I think 11-5 would have been just fine this year.

It's not groundbreaking to say that, how many teams can win games allowing 37 points? that happened 2 times.

 

[The Goat]

The whole notion of blaming everything on the defense is very prevalent on here. Its another way the Tannehill happy adjusters can absolve him of any blame.
Awsi made a really interesting post about Tannehill at Texas Am. I knew Tanne has never been a winner but I didn't know they went 7-6 when they were only an underdog ONE time!
Adjust away, let some call him a younfg Tom Brady amnd pretend he is anywhere Luck, then in the next breath make excuses for him.

The Fins were 8-8 bc of the defense, offense and special teams. Every single player needs to play better, including the QB. Not stats, make plays when it matters to win games.

And likewise, the Tannehill unhappy adjusters will take every stat available and link Tannehill to it as a negative. You might have hidden your agenda if you hadn't stuck that "Tanne has never been a winner" bull#### in there.

I mean, since we're going to take everyone who doesn't agree that Tannehill is awful and list them as "blind homers" or something similar, let's lump all the detractors together too. it's only fair. So, sure. Tell us all how he's the next John Beck, and try to play yourself off as a "realist." You'll fool everyone.

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It's not groundbreaking to say that, how many teams can win games allowing 37 points? that happened 2 times.

So let me get this straight...you're trolling a thread just to point out to the OP that his information isn't groundbreaking?

Who's more the fool...the fool or the fool who follows?