Interesting Hypothetical Situation (draft Related)

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  1. Chuck-182

    Chuck-182 Well-Known Member

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    I'll probably get some **** for this but let me throw a hypothetical draft situation at you guys to see what you think.

    I've seen a few mock drafts that have Saquon Barkley falling towards the bottom of the top 10. I know it's unlikely but let's say come draft day, we get to pick 8 or 9 and Barkley is still there. Would you guys be interested in trading up? I know we have Drake and he's great but Barkley seems to be the kind of game-changing back like Ezekiel Elliot and Leonard Fournette from the past few drafts. I know it depends on what we'd have to give up but in 2013 when we traded up for Dion Jordan we went from pick 12 to 3 and basically only had to give up one 2nd rounder.

    I know it's completely hypothetical and very unlikely but it's just something that popped in my head.
     
  2. sleek

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    Pass. RB is not a spot I want to lock big money in or trade picks for.
     
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    I am of the opinion that Saquon Barkley is the best RB to come out of college since Adrian Peterson...I think he's going to be the sort of player that defenses have to scheme for and stack the box against.

    So if he's there at, say...8? I pick up the phone and see what it would cost.
     
  4. Danny

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    Dude, he's going top 4
     
  5. steveo style

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    Just like Tunsel did
     
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    No R1 RB
     
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    If Miami gets Barkley, it will no doubt instantly make Miami's offense extremely formidable, but will not make them a championship team.

    Miami gets one of the top LBs, and a top TE they can count on, If Tannehill is healthy, the team will be better.

    There is nothing Elliot and Fournette can do, that Drake can not if he's the same RB we saw last year. Miami with Tannehill w/ a running game can move the offense Goal line to goal line, add a premium TE, adds more scoring...get a Top LB, the defense will be better then last year.
     
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    oh please. Don't even try comparing the two. It's not even close
     
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    that's not a bad mock you have there
     
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    Good question. I may be in the minority, but I think Guice is a possible target at #11 or with a trade down.

    Miami was pretty successful two years ago when they suddenly discovered a running game
     
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    Not even when you consider what a good running game did for us in 2016 or look at what Zeke was able to do for the Cowboys? Barkley seems to be a premium talent, something our offense currently does not have.
     
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    Again, not saying this is something that is likely, just found it interesting.
     
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    How often does a video like that get leaked ON the night of the draft?

    Not comparable.

    I'd pass on Barkley, he'll be a damn good rb but I just don't think it would be the right move for the team right now
     
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    I agree with SF. I think Guice is better running between the tackles, which is the reason I would not move up for Barkley.
    Michel and Chubb are also good but more for a zone scheme. All have the speed to bounce it outside as well. Penny is a sleeper too.
     
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    He's not our #1 need unfortunately, the Phins have to pass.
     
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    I want no part that has us trading up under any circumstance. We need to stop throwing away picks.
     
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    I honestly want no part of a 1st round RB, but Barkley would be awfully tempting. I don't think I'd trade up for him though. Hell as good as I think he'll be I don't even think I'd take him at #11 if Fitzpatrick was there too.
     
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    The Cowboys were able to justify taking Elliott so high in the draft, after having one of the top offensive lines in the league.
     
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    It's never smart to move up in a draft unless it is for a qb. It would be downright reprehensible if this team, or any team for that matter, traded away draft picks to move up for a running back.
     
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    Drake... Gore... Barkley or Guice or Sony...

    Not many teams have that kind of RB firepower. Something to consider.

    A lot of ball-control offense can be its OWN defense. They can't score if they don't have the ball.
     
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    He’s a ridiculous athlete. If he’s there at 11 take him...
    But I say no way he’ll be there.
    That’s fine tho - 11 gets Miami an elite athlete in this draft...
    This draft is strong where we are weak.
     
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    I think he never gets past four if Cleveland stays there
     
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    I think he goes #2 to the Giants.
     
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    I didn't want to give up picks for ANYTHING
     
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    Not even considering a back's low shelf life... I think if the blocking is the same and defenses can't play 8 in the box all the time, Guice would be just as productive as Barkey For example if I need a big first down and I have a decent line I think Guice has just as much of a chance to produce as Barkey. If Barkley is better it's not by the margin people think
     
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    I think fans take for granted what a really good running game can do for a team. We are so accustomed now to seeing chunk plays that those short gains in critical moments seem kind of ho hum.

    Yet those are the plays that keep drives alive. Not necessarily advocating first round, but not against it either.
     
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    This team has too many holes and we NEED to start hitting on our draft picks. I don't want to move up for anyone! If he was there when we pick, maybe....but that isn't going to happen. Hell, I won't mind moving back and picking up more picks!
     
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    Just reading my post from before, i meant to say pass on trading up for him originally... i would probably pass on him at 11 too BUT you could bet your *** someone would give us a good amount of picks to trade up
     
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    I have to disagree with the notion that he is a bell cow like Zeke or Fournette. To me he is more like a Christian Mcaffery.
     
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    Thanks Danny, hoping we can come close to what I have in my mock...I will be very happy.
     
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    Normally I would agree with you, however IMO Barkley is a generational RB. To be able to get a player of his caliber for 4 years on a rookie contract then a 5th year option does amazing things to a team. I don't see him sliding out of the top 5 though, so Miami would have to go up and get him.
     
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    I think most fans realize that you do not have to use a first round draft pick to get a really good running game and Barkley doesn't excel in those short yardage ho hum running plays. He does not break a lot of tackles and has a very low yardage after contact average.
     
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    I'm a long time Penn state fan, and this is spot on- he's a sick athlete and has tons of highlight plays- but things will be different at the NFL level, and I wonder about this. Not saying he won't be good, or great- and by all reports he's a great guy- but those college runs won't happen so much against NFL athletes. Picking him that high- when other needs are such a priority- might be shortsighted. I'd love to have him if we were just in total upgrade mode, but we have major holes to fill. He'd be a luxury pick for a team that can't resort to that.
     
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    I like your draft board. Not sure if we would get lucky to get 2 potentially good TEs; I'd be on board with both.
     
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    Barkley is probably the most over hyped draft prospect of our lifetime. The guy is good, but not that good...... For comparison he didn't put up the numbers that Dalvin Cook did, and the Big 10 is trash...... Also take a look what he does in big games....... Don't take my word for it, look these things up, and I guarantee your opinion will change!
     
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    If he falls trade the pick to highest bidder. I like Penny and Michel almost as much.
     
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    The only way that I see a trade up is for a QB. If not then we sit tight and let a stud fall in our laps. Id prefer Edmunds but if that Stud is Barkley then so be it. We pound the rock next year. Barkley and Drake behind that improved OL would be pretty nice.
     
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    In a heart beat!
     
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