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Interesting Tua stat

Interesting, but it is a team game.
Players, coaches, climate, and hopefully we fans contribute at least a little something.
That's true, but a crap, or even average QB isn't coming close to that mark.

@spiketex , do you have the numbers for other teams? I would think guys like Mahomes, Allen, Jackson and Rogers would be other notables.
 
Tua is 20-5 at home in his career, the best home win percentage (.800) by any active NFL QB.

The pundits will tell you that’s largely because the Dolphins have an unfair home field heat advantage — something they’ve enjoyed long before Tua Tagovailoa ever put on a Dolphins uniform — all while touting the home field weather advantages the cold weather teams such as Buffalo, Cleveland, Green Bay, and KC all have and how nobody should want to play there…..
 
QB win loss record is a real stat. Just like starting pitchers in baseball. Hats off to Tua because he’s getting it done. Meanwhile Burrow is proving to be the oft injured one while Herbert stock has leveled off at best.

It's a real stat, but it requires a large sample size to become reliable in reflecting a QB's ability. Otherwise you have to claim Drew Brees 2014-2016 was a below-average QB simply because of his team's losing record those three years, despite that he was among the league leaders in passer rating (per his usual) and made the Pro Bowl two of those years. The number of games required to make won-loss record reliable in reflecting the ability of a QB is likely in the hundreds. 20-5 (for Tua noted here) won't do it.
 
Interesting, but it is a team game.
Players, coaches, climate, and hopefully we fans contribute at least a little something.
BS. What was our home record whe we didn’t have an elite QB?
 
It's a real stat, but it requires a large sample size to become reliable in reflecting a QB's ability. Otherwise you have to claim Drew Brees 2014-2016 was a below-average QB simply because of his team's losing record those three years, despite that he was among the league leaders in passer rating (per his usual) and made the Pro Bowl two of those years. The number of games required to make won-loss record reliable in reflecting the ability of a QB is likely in the hundreds. 20-5 (for Tua noted here) won't do it.
I disagree it requires a massive sample size. QBs are a major influence in wins and losses. If you don’t see that, just put everyone’s backup in and see what the offense looks like. Typically a massive drop off. This is the NFL unfortunately. Brees early in career was putting up some numbers but not winning. He learned to lead at this level and will his teams to wins over time plus make better decisions.
 
I disagree it requires a massive sample size. QBs are a major influence in wins and losses. If you don’t see that, just put everyone’s backup in and see what the offense looks like. Typically a massive drop off. This is the NFL unfortunately. Brees early in career was putting up some numbers but not winning. He learned to lead at this level and will his teams to wins over time plus make better decisions.

Necessary but not sufficient. Again this is why Drew Brees had a below-average team record 2014-2016 despite playing very well himself. He was necessary but not sufficient for winning. And he's nowhere near the only example of that ilk. Right now for example Josh Allen is playing considerably better individually than Jared Goff, yet Jared Goff's team record is a good bit better.
 
Interesting, but it is a team game.
Players, coaches, climate, and hopefully we fans contribute at least a little something.

The fans no.

No offense to the rabid faithful who show up and cheer on the Fins. Love you guys.

Overall however, the fans aren’t an asset when compared to what other teams fans do to alter outcomes and make life difficult for opposing QBs.

As compared to most NFL stadiums.

No fault of the fans who show up. The ones who sell their tickets are the ones that need to be thrown off the nearest bridge.
 
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