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Is this the year we take the Division?

When do we take the East?

  • This year

    Votes: 11 6.7%
  • Next year

    Votes: 27 16.5%
  • not anytime soon

    Votes: 126 76.8%

  • Total voters
    164

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As always, the Pats are expected to win the East, but with several recent injuries, and Brady's 4 game absence lower their chances of being the eventual King again.
So I wanted see where you guys think we are in our quest for the AFCE Title.

Buffalo will be bad. QB wise and because they have lost defenders to injury and suspension.

The Jets will be our main competition below the Pats.
 
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You aren't going to get many people who say yes. The defense looks awful. So unless we have the best offense in the NFL, we aren't going to win much
 
The first four weeks will decide if we have a chance. I think we do, but only if the offensive and defensive lines play well. The o-line just needs to be at least average, and the d-line needs to be above average, or even top 10. We haven't seen what the d-line can do fully yet so o still have hope that when wake returns it can become much better. Our lbs are a real problem though.
 
I'm submitting my vote for next year, when the new offense and defense have their kinks worked out. It's a hopeful pick I know.
 
No. We would have to be carried by the offense and our OL still looks bad plus RT has yet to be able to consistently carry the O
 
This year likely not, but I posted a poll. Maybe the maturity of the team over the next year or 2 can answer this.
 
Take the division this year?.....lololololol

Ozzy rules
 
we have a much better chance of having the first pick in the draft than we do of winning the division


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Philbin's o-lines (which include 3 first round picks of Albert, Pouncey, and James) have consistently been dominated and pushed around by the tough, physical d-lines of the AFC East. The culmination of 4 years of Joe Philbin building his o-line resulted in Miami going 1-5 in their Division and being swept by both the Bills and the Jets (it must have been dumb luck that they actually won one against the Pats).

Sparano's o-lines weren't man-handled by those d-lines. Sure, they gave up some sacks, but Tony's teams didn't lose as often to the Bills and Jets as Philbin's teams did. How about the other year when Philbin needed one win against either the Bills or the Jets to earn a playoff berth; how did they do? Miami scored a total of 10 points in both games and missed the post-season. Why did this happen? Philbin turned a physical team into a finesse team (on both offense and defense) not just with his personnel decisions, but also with the style of offense and defense that he wanted to run. Philbin's (and Lazor's) style of offense was ineffective against tough physical defenses, and his o-line couldn't protect the QB or sustain a running game. Coyle's style of defense consistently made rookie Jets and Bills QBs look like Pro Bowlers.

So, why don't I think that Miami can win the Division? Simple. Gase will be running a short pass based offense somewhat similar to what Philbin/Lazor ran. (I do think that Gase will open up the passing game a little more than Lazor did.) However, the o-line that Gase inherited was ineffective against AFC East d-lines. Philbin built a weak o-line, and Gase will be using the majority of that o-line. This suggests to me that the QB will again be under pressure. And, the failure to replace Philbin's "finesse" o-linemen with big, nasty, physically dominating road-graders means that Miami will once again have no effective running game. To make matters worse, Miami's defense just plain sucks. Coyle did to the defense what Philbin/Lazor did to the offense. If Miami wants to regain the Division title, they need to go back to being an old-school smash-mouth tough football team (combined with a vertical passing game) but Gase and his staff are almost as finesse-oriented as the previous regime.
 
Hell no.

We are the hot fav to finish 4th in the division
 
As always, the Pats are expected to win the East, but with several recent injuries, and Brady's 4 game absence lower their chances of being the eventual King again.
So I wanted see where you guys think we are in our quest for the AFCE Title.

Buffalo will be bad. QB wise and because they have lost defenders to injury and suspension.

The Jets will be our main competition below the Pats.

Why do you think Buffalo's QB situation will be bad?
Did you see Taylor yesterday against the same Giant defense that completely shut down our offense in week 1.
He completely shredded them.
 
Why do you think Buffalo's QB situation will be bad?
Did you see Taylor yesterday against the same Giant defense that completely shut down our offense in week 1.
He completely shredded them.

Homers will be homers.

BUF will be the maybe team in the division. With Miami taking the cellar, and NYJ taking a step back. NE? Same ole same ole by November.
 
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