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or the lineup... Sit Shelton and James, put in Alabi and Berger. Play Allen and Bell at safety. Play Vickerson and Evans on the d-line. Cut Russell, and call up Vick or Gibson. Cut Morris and call up the kid from North Texas,Cobb. Find good young players and test them by fire. Find some one who will learn to pay attention on offense, or in the secondary. Abosolutely nothing to lose. If Miami loses another couple of games in the upcoming weeks I would insists that they consider some changes. Trade deadline is this week I believe.

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100% AGREE. BELL AND JASON ALLEN SHOULD HAVE BEEN STARTING SINCE AT LEAST THE 2nd GAME. I THINK THE O-LINE SHOULD LOOK LIKE THIS.

LT- CAREY
LG- BERGER
C- HADNOT
RG- LJ SHELTON
RT- GIVE ALABI A CHANCE
 
T-DOG said:
100% AGREE. BELL AND JASON ALLEN SHOULD HAVE BEEN STARTING SINCE AT LEAST THE 2nd GAME. I THINK THE O-LINE SHOULD LOOK LIKE THIS.

LT- CAREY
LG- BERGER
C- HADNOT
RG- LJ SHELTON
RT- GIVE ALABI A CHANCE
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personally i like

LT--AlAbi
LG--James
C--Hadnot
RG--Carey
RT--Shelton
 
I say we stick with what worked on today's o-line. I still want to see us try to win games. You're right with the safties however. But let's not pack in games just yet. I still want to see Dolphin wins.
 
It wouldn't hurt anything to start letting backups get playing time. I would like to see Berger be a starter and yes let Jason Allen start the rest of the season.
 
Shakin up the O-line even more does not help at all. These guy live on continuity and if you do not want to see Harringtorn torn to pieces and Brown achieving a 2.5 ypc average than you should rely on the current 5 starters.
Carey is too slow for LT and Alabi must be worse than McIntosh. Because it is more than safe to assume that Saban and Houck would start one of their draftees (Alabi) rather than McIntosh (whom the kicked out after the 05 season) if Alabi was not much worse than him.

Morris was reaaaalllllyyyy awful yesterday but in the past he was a reliable backup and special teams player.

I do agree on your safeties though. Tillman is garbage and Hill was not even good enough for the Raiders. That says it all.

For Vickerson and Evans: I am also worried that they do not play more. On the other hand the run stopping is one of the few things that works currently.

Saban just can't change everything just for the sake of seeing if these younger players are any good. If he does that and will only win one more game noone would say: "Oh, I am glad he brought in these players, 80% were not good, and we lost everything, but he gave it a try". What would happen instead is that attendance will drop even more, team will lose $, the prestige of the franchise will decrease even more and free agents will hesitate even more to sign with such a team. :boohoo:
So he has to stick to his gameplan. It would not hurt though to add Allen and
have Evans/ Vickerson play a bigger role in the rotation . Same goes for Matt Roth, while I do not see much of Carter.
 
I don't disagree with the continuity argument..however..

Lederhosen said:
Shakin up the O-line even more does not help at all. These guy live on continuity and if you do not want to see Harringtorn torn to pieces and Brown achieving a 2.5 ypc average than you should rely on the current 5 starters.
Carey is too slow for LT and Alabi must be worse than McIntosh. Because it is more than safe to assume that Saban and Houck would start one of their draftees (Alabi) rather than McIntosh (whom the kicked out after the 05 season) if Alabi was not much worse than him.

Morris was reaaaalllllyyyy awful yesterday but in the past he was a reliable backup and special teams player.

I do agree on your safeties though. Tillman is garbage and Hill was not even good enough for the Raiders. That says it all.

For Vickerson and Evans: I am also worried that they do not play more. On the other hand the run stopping is one of the few things that works currently.

Saban just can't change everything just for the sake of seeing if these younger players are any good. If he does that and will only win one more game noone would say: "Oh, I am glad he brought in these players, 80% were not good, and we lost everything, but he gave it a try". What would happen instead is that attendance will drop even more, team will lose $, the prestige of the franchise will decrease even more and free agents will hesitate even more to sign with such a team. :boohoo:
So he has to stick to his gameplan. It would not hurt though to add Allen and
have Evans/ Vickerson play a bigger role in the rotation . Same goes for Matt Roth, while I do not see much of Carter.
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I am not sure that I want these 5 getting comfortable as Dolphin starters anyway. I don't want to see Shelton, McIntosh, or James in Dolphin uniforms much longer. I played on the offensive line so I understand your point, but I would rather develop that chemistry with the newer guys. Another loss will only strengthen my view.

Lee2000
 
Bingo!

Lederhosen said:
Shakin up the O-line even more does not help at all. These guy live on continuity and if you do not want to see Harringtorn torn to pieces and Brown achieving a 2.5 ypc average than you should rely on the current 5 starters.
Carey is too slow for LT and Alabi must be worse than McIntosh. Because it is more than safe to assume that Saban and Houck would start one of their draftees (Alabi) rather than McIntosh (whom the kicked out after the 05 season) if Alabi was not much worse than him.

Morris was reaaaalllllyyyy awful yesterday but in the past he was a reliable backup and special teams player.

I do agree on your safeties though. Tillman is garbage and Hill was not even good enough for the Raiders. That says it all.

For Vickerson and Evans: I am also worried that they do not play more. On the other hand the run stopping is one of the few things that works currently.

Saban just can't change everything just for the sake of seeing if these younger players are any good. If he does that and will only win one more game noone would say: "Oh, I am glad he brought in these players, 80% were not good, and we lost everything, but he gave it a try". What would happen instead is that attendance will drop even more, team will lose $, the prestige of the franchise will decrease even more and free agents will hesitate even more to sign with such a team. :boohoo:
So he has to stick to his gameplan. It would not hurt though to add Allen and have Evans/ Vickerson play a bigger role in the rotation . Same goes for Matt Roth, while I do not see much of Carter.
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You nailed it.
 
Lederhosen said:
Saban just can't change everything just for the sake of seeing if these younger players are any good. If he does that and will only win one more game noone would say: "Oh, I am glad he brought in these players, 80% were not good, and we lost everything, but he gave it a try". What would happen instead is that attendance will drop even more, team will lose $, the prestige of the franchise will decrease even more and free agents will hesitate even more to sign with such a team. :boohoo:
So he has to stick to his gameplan. It would not hurt though to add Allen and
have Evans/ Vickerson play a bigger role in the rotation . Same goes for Matt Roth, while I do not see much of Carter.
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I agreed with your post until here. What do you mean he shouldn't change things just to change things? We are 1-5 and we have played a soft schedule! We have young guys sitting on inactive or the bench! The vets are not getting it done - we are 1-5. At what point do you have to see if a young guy can do the job? Maybe just maybe we would show some heart and energy in the 1st 3 qtrs of a game - heck I'd even take just the 1st qtr. We look so uninspired to start a game - what a joke.

How can Evans/ Vickerson play a bigger role when they have been inactive every week - they have no role - why are they even on the team - we have 6 DT's on the damn roster - 6!! Why???
 
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