Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by Tiko377, Apr 26, 2018.
At least there’s still some rationality in the FO these days.
Won't know until the draft. Miami has been a hard read pre-draft, which is the way it should be.
very unpredictable draft this year thanks to the 4 QB's and nobody knows where they're going yet
It would be kind of stupid to say the loved him and he’s definitely an option at 11.
I would say that is a good thing since #11 is way too early for him.
I'd love to have him behind Tannehill for a season or 2
Boy, that’d be too bad.
I guess we’d just have to settle for a linebacker or something else we don’t need more than a QB.
Not really....according to ‘sources’ they’re in love with the top 50 players in the draft at 11
There is only one qb good enough for the dolphins. That's RT. Everyone else is extremely flawed it seems
Gase has shown to be adaptable as an OC, but Jackson doesn't have the skillset he typically wants in his offense.
Also, QBs in the mold of Lamar Jackson have been completely unsuccessful in the NFL. The latest, DeShaun Watson, didn’t even make it 3 games before being out for the year. Why does everyone expect Lamar Jackson to be different? Do the laws of physics not apply to him? Will he somehow not take the same kind of hits that ruined RG3 and took out Watson in a matter of games?
And Watson relies less on his legs than Jackson does.
Vick is the only true mobile QB that I recall having any kind of longevity. Other "mobile QBs" tended to utilize their legs mostly for scrambling. I wouldn't even consider Cam Newton a mobile QB like Jackson, even though he is adept at using his running ability to move the chains. He is still primarily a pocket passer. Plus he has size that guys like Jackson can't even touch.
What are you talking about? 1. Watson made it more than 3 games. 2. He was injured in a non contact drill in practice. Very similar to the non contact injury Ryan Tannehill suffered. 3. There are plenty of examples of successful QBs that run as well. Ever hear of Russell Wilson or Cam Newton?
Agreed completely. I think people have fresh memories of those 2 games DeShaun Watson played and forget that he was out the rest of the year, and think Lamar Jackson is the next big thing. It’s too big of a risk for me, especially in the first, for a team that doesn’t have the luxury of taking risks like that considering our roster.
Neither RW or Cam are pure mobile QBs like Jackson. They scramble, not rely on designed runs or their speed to move the chains. RW is an improvisational QB, but he operates within the parameters of a pocket passer. Jackson is more like Vick and RGIII.
They are pocket QBs who are mobile. That’s different than a scrambling QB, like an RG3 or DeShaun Watson. Can Lamar Jackson turn into that? Maybe. I don’t think it’s a risk this team can take with the roster we have.
You’re right, I stand corrected.
I love Lamar Jackson but not enough to pass on the elite defensive talent that should be available for us. Josh Rosen and it's a discussion.
Cam Newton ran for 1500 yards his senior year in college.
And please stop grouping Watson into a scrambling QB. He ran less than Cam did in college and he ran less than Cam did last year. What are you basing these opinions on?
The fact that he was hurt, so it helps your argument? hahaha
I don’t think anyone knows who Tannenbaum/Gase are targeting. Why would any GM or Coach blab to the media who they are most focused on? The talking heads, Mel Kiper, McShay, Rappoport, Cowherd, Shefter know about as much about who is going where, as the average person reading Finheaven.
Whatever you say man. I wish Lamar Jackson the best and hope he has an amazing career. He’s a phenomenal human being and deserves the best. But he’s a risk and it’s a risk this team can’t afford to take with this roster.
Trade down and draft him...or trade up from the second round pick?
Ummm...huh?? I was about to respond and then thought that had to be sarcasm so i stopped.
He is a risk. Absolutely agree there. I think you're overstating the risk as well as using false narrative to do so.
As a half back?
Lamar Jackson is as good of a passer as Allen, but adds another dimension with his athleticism. With that said, I wouldn't grab either before round two because they are both inaccurate which doesn't lead to success in the NFL.
Also. Why can we not afford to take the risk? Because this roster is so close to competing? Because we are in a perfect situation to continue to middle of the road mediocre? If anything this franchise absolutely NEEDS to take a risk such as this.
If we go QB at 11, I think it's gonna be Jackson. A lot of people around here are gonna be pisssssssssssed. Me? I am gonna be excited!
Don't waste an 11 on Jackson.
It’s a completely legitimate argument...you don’t ever want your QB taking big hits.
I actually like the way they were using Tannehill at one point occasionally letting him take off to keep the defense honest...it takes a lot of self control by the QB.
If a QB with Jackson’s abilities ever learns to do that...it will be dangerous!
This franchise has a steady, if unspectacular, QB now. If Jackson busts, this franchise is set back however many years. And that chance of busting is even higher right now because we have no TE, a leaky OL, and our receivers are a question mark. And, we have a defense that will force the offense to put up lots of points to win. I’d be comfortable with a traditional pocket passer coming into that situation because that skill set is designed to handle that. Jackson’s best chance of thriving is in an offense with pieces already in place. So we would move on from our traditional pocket QB who has shown he can get us to the playoffs with a crap roster, and we take on a boom or bust QB who has a really high chance of busting due to what we’re inserting him into. That’s a disaster in the making.
That’s just my opinion, though. No worries if people disagree.
As opposed to every single other QB being better than RT? All you post is polar extremes.
If Cam lost his ability to run could he still be an effective QB? The answer is yes.
Could you say the same for Jackson?
as long as you take him in the 2nd
If the Browns took Saquon Barkley at 1 and LaMar Jackson at 4, they would be deadly!
I wouldn't hate it we took Jackson.
Phew, glad you guys put that to rest.
Now draft him and lets get this party started.
Lol, it was sarcasm.
The fact that a QB is even being considered over LB or FS staggers me.