You expecting him to play in 2020 then?
I'm not sure how long of a "long view" you can afford to take on Rosen. Granted you want to put him out there when he's ready. But you also want to get a good enough look at him to determine if you have something there. My initial impression is no! At least not franchise QB type stuff.
The other consideration here, as i see it, is maybe Flores just want to win as many games as possible. If that's the case, which i suspected, then he's likely more inclined to go with Fitz. Hate him or love him in the short-term you're probably more likely to generate wins with the Vet over the Rookie.
The GM maybe thinking tank for Tua or Herbert or Fromm but Flores is saying "Screw that!" I'm going to to try and make it to the playoffs...
I'm not sure how long of a "long view" you can afford to take on Rosen. Granted you want to put him out there when he's ready. But you also want to get a good enough look at him to determine if you have something there. My initial impression is no! At least not franchise QB type stuff.
The other consideration here, as i see it, is maybe Flores just want to win as many games as possible. If that's the case, which i suspected, then he's likely more inclined to go with Fitz. Hate him or love him in the short-term you're probably more likely to generate wins with the Vet over the Rookie.
The GM maybe thinking tank for Tua or Herbert or Fromm but Flores is saying "Screw that!" I'm going to to try and make it to the playoffs...
Have you ever watched another quarterback before? I feel like your context for that comment is ridiculous out of whack.This article is just hot garbage.
Rosen has played great and had many dropped passes last week that were easy catches.
He is our starter no questions asked.
Fans need to get it out of their heads that the Dolphins made this trade thinking that it had a legitimate potential for inducing them to bypass the QB position at the top of the 2020 draft.
That was never on the table. At least, not in a realistic sense. More like, "Yeah sure if the chips fall a certain way I suppose it's technically possible..."
That’s one hell of an expensive “technically possible” gamble to make with a 2nd round pick. Where not even going to get into Chase over-there in New England.
They didn't pay a 2nd round pick because they thought it was a legitimate possibility.
He's a developmental quarterback. We can't suddenly act like we're completely unfamiliar with the idea of taking developmental quarterbacks in the draft. Patriots have been doing it for years, most often in the 3rd round. And 3rd round is exactly the price Chris Grier kept trying to get the Cardinals to take for Josh Rosen, but in the final minute he decided to up the price to a late-2nd round pick just to get the thing done and out of the way.
Many of us were clamoring for the Dolphins to take a developmental guy in this year's draft, e.g. Will Grier, Easton Stick, etc. Would either of those guys automatically have started in 2019 with the idea they might be super awesome and induce us to avoid the 2020 QB market? No. They would've also been developmental guys, and you develop those guys the way you see most fit to get them to be the best player they can. That's what they're doing with Josh Rosen, and they have continuously, repeatedly hammered into our thick skulls that the best way to do that is NOT to just hand him the starting job.
They've got 3 years to try and develop Josh Rosen into the best asset he can be. And if they do it, history shows that QBs are tradeable commodities. In the words of NFL executives, who say these things to guys like Adam Schefter, "quarterbacks are currency".
And even if the 3 years run up before they can get someone to trade for Rosen, if he DOES end up a good quarterback, then when he hits free agency in 2022, he ends up signing a big contract, and Miami will get a compensatory pick for him in 2023. Meanwhile they've gotten 3 years of backup QB from a guy for the low price of $2 million (total). A team normally pays $4 to $6 million per year for a capable backup.
They didn't pay a 2nd round pick because they thought it was a legitimate possibility.
He's a developmental quarterback. We can't suddenly act like we're completely unfamiliar with the idea of taking developmental quarterbacks in the draft. Patriots have been doing it for years, most often in the 3rd round. And 3rd round is exactly the price Chris Grier kept trying to get the Cardinals to take for Josh Rosen, but in the final minute he decided to up the price to a late-2nd round pick just to get the thing done and out of the way.
Many of us were clamoring for the Dolphins to take a developmental guy in this year's draft, e.g. Will Grier, Easton Stick, etc. Would either of those guys automatically have started in 2019 with the idea they might be super awesome and induce us to avoid the 2020 QB market? No. They would've also been developmental guys, and you develop those guys the way you see most fit to get them to be the best player they can. That's what they're doing with Josh Rosen, and they have continuously, repeatedly hammered into our thick skulls that the best way to do that is NOT to just hand him the starting job.
They've got 3 years to try and develop Josh Rosen into the best asset he can be. And if they do it, history shows that QBs are tradeable commodities. In the words of NFL executives, who say these things to guys like Adam Schefter, "quarterbacks are currency".
And even if the 3 years run up before they can get someone to trade for Rosen, if he DOES end up a good quarterback, then when he hits free agency in 2022, he ends up signing a big contract, and Miami will get a compensatory pick for him in 2023. Meanwhile they've gotten 3 years of backup QB from a guy for the low price of $2 million (total). A team normally pays $4 to $6 million per year for a capable backup.
I think this is a valid take on the organization's perspective. I would add that there is still the possibility that Rosen can develop to be The Guy for us, outplaying a QB picked high next year. It's not like 1st Round QB busts are an anomaly...this gives further options in the event our guy next year does not come through. Wish they could have done it for a 3, but it was well played with the trade for the 2020 2nd. Bottom line is that there are positive scenarios for us that don't mandate Rosen starting right now.
They didn't pay a 2nd round pick because they thought it was a legitimate possibility.
He's a developmental quarterback. We can't suddenly act like we're completely unfamiliar with the idea of taking developmental quarterbacks in the draft. Patriots have been doing it for years, most often in the 3rd round. And 3rd round is exactly the price Chris Grier kept trying to get the Cardinals to take for Josh Rosen, but in the final minute he decided to up the price to a late-2nd round pick just to get the thing done and out of the way.
Many of us were clamoring for the Dolphins to take a developmental guy in this year's draft, e.g. Will Grier, Easton Stick, etc. Would either of those guys automatically have started in 2019 with the idea they might be super awesome and induce us to avoid the 2020 QB market? No. They would've also been developmental guys, and you develop those guys the way you see most fit to get them to be the best player they can. That's what they're doing with Josh Rosen, and they have continuously, repeatedly hammered into our thick skulls that the best way to do that is NOT to just hand him the starting job.
They've got 3 years to try and develop Josh Rosen into the best asset he can be. And if they do it, history shows that QBs are tradeable commodities. In the words of NFL executives, who say these things to guys like Adam Schefter, "quarterbacks are currency".
And even if the 3 years run up before they can get someone to trade for Rosen, if he DOES end up a good quarterback, then when he hits free agency in 2022, he ends up signing a big contract, and Miami will get a compensatory pick for him in 2023. Meanwhile they've gotten 3 years of backup QB from a guy for the low price of $2 million (total). A team normally pays $4 to $6 million per year for a capable backup.
They didn't pay a 2nd round pick because they thought it was a legitimate possibility.
He's a developmental quarterback. We can't suddenly act like we're completely unfamiliar with the idea of taking developmental quarterbacks in the draft. Patriots have been doing it for years, most often in the 3rd round. And 3rd round is exactly the price Chris Grier kept trying to get the Cardinals to take for Josh Rosen, but in the final minute he decided to up the price to a late-2nd round pick just to get the thing done and out of the way.
Many of us were clamoring for the Dolphins to take a developmental guy in this year's draft, e.g. Will Grier, Easton Stick, etc. Would either of those guys automatically have started in 2019 with the idea they might be super awesome and induce us to avoid the 2020 QB market? No. They would've also been developmental guys, and you develop those guys the way you see most fit to get them to be the best player they can. That's what they're doing with Josh Rosen, and they have continuously, repeatedly hammered into our thick skulls that the best way to do that is NOT to just hand him the starting job.
They've got 3 years to try and develop Josh Rosen into the best asset he can be. And if they do it, history shows that QBs are tradeable commodities. In the words of NFL executives, who say these things to guys like Adam Schefter, "quarterbacks are currency".
And even if the 3 years run up before they can get someone to trade for Rosen, if he DOES end up a good quarterback, then when he hits free agency in 2022, he ends up signing a big contract, and Miami will get a compensatory pick for him in 2023. Meanwhile they've gotten 3 years of backup QB from a guy for the low price of $2 million (total). A team normally pays $4 to $6 million per year for a capable backup.