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It’s Official: Hafley hired as HC

Fineas said:
As for Tyreek, he is what he is. If you think any of that has anything to do with McDaniel, go ahead and believe it. I think that notion is positively ludicrous, but we can agree to disagree.
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I think the broader issue and really the failure of the last regime is the overall disregard for culture and how they built the team. Because Grier missed on so many critical draft picks, he build the core nucleus of this team with Hill, Chubb, Ramsey and Armstead. One of them is an idiot and quitter, the other is a cancer and unfortunately the other two have struggled to stay on the field.

What I like about JES comments is the concept of building through the draft and building a culture of young guys that you retain. I recognize everyone wants to that and very few do. Which comes down to drafting and not wasting draft picks on players with huge contracts, who haven’t bought in because the GM missed too many times.
 
mlb1399 said:
I think the broader issue and really the failure of the last regime is the overall disregard for culture and how they built the team. Because Grier missed on so many critical draft picks, he build the core nucleus of this team with Hill, Chubb, Ramsey and Armstead. One of them is an idiot and quitter, the other is a cancer and unfortunately the other two have struggled to stay on the field.

What I like about JES comments is the concept of building through the draft and building a culture of young guys that you retain. I recognize everyone wants to that and very few do. Which comes down to drafting and not wasting draft picks on players with huge contracts, who haven’t bought in because the GM missed too many times.
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Yeah, I agree that's what everyone wants to do. It's what Grier said he wanted to do and for awhile in 2018-20 he was accumulating picks. But it's also true that just about every team departs from that when they think they may be close and a great player is available. Grier departed from it first with the Tyreek trade and then with the Chubb trade. Sullivan's Packers departed from it with the Parsons trade, which now leaves them with no 1st round picks for the next two drafts and a fewer than average number of picks. The Rams had done it for a number of years until they traded a bunch of picks away first for the No. 1 overall pick to get Goff and then to get Ramsey and Stafford. Sometimes it works, as it largely has for the Rams, and sometimes it doesn't, as with the Dolphins (and Packers thus far).

Personally, I'm not overly impressed by the GB drafts over the last decade, but Sullivan wasn't the guy making the picks and may have done them differently and may do better here. The Packers have heavily relied and traits and measurables over college performance and I don't love that. Most of the bad early picks under Grier were traits/measurables picks much moreso than college performance picks -- Igbinoghene, Cam Smith, Jonah, AJax, etc. I prefer more weight on college performance in the early rounds. But hopefully Sullivan will do a better job with the traits/measurables picks if that is his focus.
 
Fineas said:
Yeah, I agree that's what everyone wants to do. It's what Grier said he wanted to do and for awhile in 2018-20 he was accumulating picks. But it's also true that just about every team departs from that when they think they may be close and a great player is available. Grier departed from it first with the Tyreek trade and then with the Chubb trade. Sullivan's Packers departed from it with the Parsons trade, which now leaves them with no 1st round picks for the next two drafts and a fewer than average number of picks. The Rams had done it for a number of years until they traded a bunch of picks away first for the No. 1 overall pick to get Goff and then to get Ramsey and Stafford. Sometimes it works, as it largely has for the Rams, and sometimes it doesn't, as with the Dolphins (and Packers thus far).

Personally, I'm not overly impressed by the GB drafts over the last decade, but Sullivan wasn't the guy making the picks and may have done them differently and may do better here. The Packers have heavily relied and traits and measurables over college performance and I don't love that. Most of the bad early picks under Grier were traits/measurables picks much moreso than college performance picks -- Igbinoghene, Cam Smith, Jonah, AJax, etc. I prefer more weight on college performance in the early rounds. But hopefully Sullivan will do a better job with the traits/measurables picks if that is his focus.
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Yeah, I didn’t understand the Parsons trade because they’re not one player away. I know Wyatt and Parsons going down didn’t help but I still don’t think they’re making a SB run. I know a lot of them up here say Kraft going down really hurt.

The one thing you can say about GB is they’ve sustained success for multiple decades. Obviously hitting 2 generational HOF QB’s helps but they’ve also put together championship caliber rosters. We just have to hope they can replicate that in Miami.

For the first time in a long time, I’m at least optimistic because they’re at least attempting to fix the problems. We’ll see if they actually do it.
 
mlb1399 said:
Yeah, I didn’t understand the Parsons trade because they’re not one player away. I know Wyatt and Parsons going down didn’t help but I still don’t think they’re making a SB run. I know a lot of them up here say Kraft going down really hurt.

The one thing you can say about GB is they’ve sustained success for multiple decades. Obviously hitting 2 generational HOF QB’s helps but they’ve also put together championship caliber rosters. We just have to hope they can replicate that in Miami.

For the first time in a long time, I’m at least optimistic because they’re at least attempting to fix the problems. We’ll see if they actually do it.
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I think the QB thing is most of it. It's rare to have a truly down year with a great QB. Over 32 years with Favre, Rodgers and Love they have 2 SB wins, 3 SB appearances, 10 years of missing the playoffs and 17 years of losing in the WC or divisional round of the playoffs. I'm not sure that's so good considering the QBs they had.

Their average offense (pts) rank has been 8.6, which I'd say is largely attributable to the QBs. But if one were to average the rank of their QB over that time I think it would much much higher than 8.6. Their defenses have an average rank of 13, which is better than average but not by a whole lot. The Dolphins' average defense rank (pts) over that same time period has been 15.3. A bit worse than the Packers, but not much.
 
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