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Jake Long vs Joe Thomas: A direct comparison

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By and large I think most Dolphins fans are happy with our #1 pick, myself included. Jake Long is a great prospect who more than deserves the distinction of being the first player picked.

That being said, there is always a lingering doubt resonating in the back of your mind when making these kinds of decisions. Considering the ramifications in which the huge amount money spent on this one player can resonate through your favorite franchise for a half a decade, it is understandable to have these fears.

The argument put forth by those unhappy with the choice is simple: We paid 60 million dollars for a second class Joe Thomas. I'm being told that Joe Thomas is the better athlete, and that Jake Long will have trouble with speed rushers. Well let's break down the tape, and then facilitate the discussion further with the evidence to both sides laid bare.

Here are the combine statistics for each prospect as follows:

Joe Thomas

Height: 6065
Weight: 311 (at combine)
40 YD: 4.92
20 YD: 2.87
10 YD: 1.75
225 Bench: 28 reps
Vertical Jump: 33
Broad Jump: 09'02"
20 YD Shuttle: 4.88
3 Cone: 7.95

Jake Long

Height: 6070
Weight: 313 (at combine)
40 YD: 5.22
20 YD: 2.97
10 YD: 1.75
225 Bench: 37 reps
Vertical Jump: 27 1/2
Broad Jump: 08'06"
20 YD Shuttle: 4.73
3 Cone: 7.44

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Breaking down the 2 players is almost like splitting hairs in most cases IMO. None the less the timed drills show that in lateral movements and drills which require quick feet, Jake Long is actually a hair faster than Joe Thomas. In short field situations, the ones most important for OTs, they are equal.

The biggest deviances come from the power exercises. Joe Thomas does indeed have more impact strength, as shown in the Vertical and Broad jump exercises. While Jake Long excels in muscle endurance, which is evidenced in his run blocking ability.

The conclusion to this article is as follows. Both OTs are well built for the NFL, and have the potential to be something special. In the end, a .1 advantage in speed is not going to make a player into a HOF. it is the mental attitude of that person that will make or break them. I'm convinced that Jake Long has the right mindset, and I'm also convinced the Dolphin's terrible trio is sure as well.
 
Haha, my friend if you are already sick of draft prospect and selection debate you are going to have a miserable wait to the actual NFL season.
 
He's no Joe Thomas.

Period.


But I'll still be hoping that Jake proves me wrong. :D
 
Oh geeze. After we signed him I thought such threads would dissipate.

jeez lighten up man. The last 3 or 4 posts I've seen from you are all criticizing others about their posts. I guess everyone isn't as big of a message board guru as yourself but try to chill out and if you don't like it....don't read it.
 
jeez lighten up man. The last 3 or 4 posts I've seen from you are all criticizing others about their posts. I guess everyone isn't as big of a message board guru as yourself but try to chill out and if you don't like it....don't read it.

How will one know if they like or not if they don't read it? :d-day:
 
First of all Jake Long is a much stronger run blocker then Thomas ever dreamed of being. Also Jake never had a major knee injury before! Some of you people seem to forget that Joe has a bad wheel.
 
Great post man, I agree with everything you said.
 
Just so you know -

The Combine vertical jump numbers were off by 4-5 inches. They've reported as such and every single major player has increased their vertical by 4-6 inches at their pro days. That doesn't happen by accident, there was a mistake made at the combine.
 
How will one know if they like or not if they don't read it? :d-day:

This guy's making fun of the OP and how these threads about comparing Long and Thomas should stop now that Long is signed.

This dude is making fun of the fact that there's a comparison to begin with.

You don't really need to read the thread called Jake Long vs Joe Thomas to know that you won't like the comparison inside it.

This guy opened the thread with the intention to diss it.

That's the point, and he's being accused of baseless negativity, though I don't really remember reading any of this guy's posts.
 
An interesting point made in another forum that I visit. Jake Long has a much larger wingspan. One of the biggest reaches in recent draft history if I recall.

Also to the person who mentioned the error in Vertical Jump measurements, very good point, I had forgotten that. I pulled my information from www.nfldraftscout.com, and I figured that such errors would have been corrected. Neither Joe Thomas nor Jake Long had anything in their pro day section on that website, i figured they had just let their combine numbers stand.
 
An interesting point made in another forum that I visit. Jake Long has a much larger wingspan. One of the biggest reaches in recent draft history if I recall.

I think he has 37 inch arms where Gholston and Dorsey have 32.

I just envision Jake with his hands on Gholston's and Dorsey's heads while they swing at him but can't reach his body.
 
Sorry for the "double post", but I wanted to make this a separate comment.

In my observations as an NFL fan, if your edge is getting speed rushed consistently one of the most effective ways to neutralize it is you run the ball towards that rusher. I feel that if Jake is having trouble in his first year against an elite speed rusher (who give EVERYBODY trouble frankly) one of his best attributes is that we can punish that rusher with a hard run blocking.

What speed rusher is going to be fast in the 4th quarter after being brutalized on 10-12 power running plays?
 
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