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So what's the deal with Jalen Strong? He's listed at 6'2"-6'4" and around 210-220 lbs. He had a 42" vert and a 10'4" broad jump at the Combine. He caught 82 passes for just under 1200 yards and 10 TDs this past season. So how come I've barely seen his name mentioned as a possible pick for us? So for you guys who follow the going ons of this time of year pretty closely...why haven't I seen his name brought up more often as a WR we could draft?
 
So what's the deal with Jalen Strong? He's listed at 6'2"-6'4" and around 210-220 lbs. He had a 42" vert and a 10'4" broad jump at the Combine. He caught 82 passes for just under 1200 yards and 10 T'S this past season. So how come I've barely seen his name mentioned as a possible pick for us? So for you guys who follow the going ons of this time of year pretty closely...why haven't I seen his name brought up more often as a WR we could draft?

Not worth the 14th pick, but he probably won't be there at 47. Solid player, and I can see drafting him in a trade-down scenario (not that I'm advocating for that approach).
 
So what's the deal with Jalen Strong? He's listed at 6'2"-6'4" and around 210-220 lbs. He had a 42" vert and a 10'4" broad jump at the Combine. He caught 82 passes for just under 1200 yards and 10 TDs this past season. So how come I've barely seen his name mentioned as a possible pick for us? So for you guys who follow the going ons of this time of year pretty closely...why haven't I seen his name brought up more often as a WR we could draft?

he is a talent, and we could draft... people on the forum speak highly on him and would take him. he just isnt slated as the top 3 WRs that get spoken about constantly media wise. but he could be a later 1st rounder definite 2nd rounder.


my thoughts are listed below him after i watched his film and all:


Jaelen Strong- Arizona State: great height and body with great leaping ability, Jaelen is strong, he has good hands, his route running from the line and in and out of breaks need a lot of work, his footwork isnt great, he has great athletic ability and talent but needs a lot of work and development as an NFL WR, seems raw talent

loved watching him get shut down too by CB- Steven Nelson- Oregon State!!! only game i think he didnt score a TD
 
Lack of separation despite good speed is my biggest concern...real strength in his hands,..balls are contested at the collegiate level that he comes down with...think he lacks burst in and out of his cuts thus the separation concerns...the ball will only be more contested in the pros...it will go before we come on the clock in the 2nd round with how well he ran at that size

Parts of his game are raw...
 
Ok. Hoops, Bane, and whomever else wants to answer this...do u guys think our coaching staff can help him develop those parts of his game that are raw? I guess a better question would be...do y'all trust our coaching staff to help him in this area should we draft him?
 
Ok. Hoops, Bane, and whomever else wants to answer this...do u guys think our coaching staff can help him develop those parts of his game that are raw? I guess a better question would be...do y'all trust our coaching staff to help him in this area should we draft him?

Are you asking if he's worth developing at 14 or 47?
 
I think he has a chance to go in the 20 range. He ran a 4.4 at the combine, but his playing speed to me seems more like 4.55/4.60. Strong has really good hands and highpoints the ball as well as anyone in the draft, except for maybe DaVante Parker. Getting consistent separation has been his issue and the reason he ranks 4th or 5th among receivers depending on who is ranking them.
 
I like him a little better than Parker, actually, but I don't like either at 14.
 
Could this be another scenario where we "overdraft" a guy that we like as we did with James last year? I mean, if he's projected in the 20s and you're at 14, don't you think Hickey would take him at 14 considering what he did last year? Especially if Strong is a "high character" player (anyone know what his background is or if he was a captain at ASU?)...u know they will be looking at him hard.
 
Ok. Hoops, Bane, and whomever else wants to answer this...do u guys think our coaching staff can help him develop those parts of his game that are raw? I guess a better question would be...do y'all trust our coaching staff to help him in this area should we draft him?

yeah he can be coached up... i dont see him with having attitude issues or a poor work ethic. but it takes time, and you never are really sure where you fully can get the kid... you'd be bringing in a guy that doesnt run good routes or have good footwork in and out of breaks (which is huge to have in the NFL to excel), he runs finesse routes (rounded off) and doesnt use his big frame in routes or to shield, and he doesnt create separation consistently due to all of this. he is raw in many terms... a lot to learn.

so there you kind of have to assess do we want to take him in at these higher picks? take another position of need where we can have a guy fill in right away most likely? or wait on a WR later in the draft who may be more polished WR, but maybe not the bigger athlete he is.


i also just mentioned in another thread I obviously have White and Cooper as the top to WRs in the draft... but I value Parker out of comparison with those guys and have him in the second group of WRs.
 
His 4.44 official in the 40, which will be recorded as a 4.38 or 4.39 on some teams' stopwatches, was not surprising. I kept telling people he would run faster than everyone thinks. On film he shows deceptive speed and separates vertically against defenders that were deceived into thinking he is slower than he really is. That happened in the Duke game, among others.

He's made more and more impressive contested and high point catches than a DeVante Parker, but suffers a little bit from the East Coast bias. His ability to find the football in the air and play it are very impressive. He can jump through the stadium roof, too.

Unlike a DeVante Parker, I think Jaelen Strong actually runs routes. He actually pops out of his break and can get moving horizontally, accelerating well. You like him for an offense that depends on receivers getting to a spot, whereas a DeVante Parker I think is going to play the man a little bit more (often getting into hand fights that could see him flagged for offensive pass interference).

I consider him a good RAC player, but Jaelen is not the type that is going to run a man cover beater with sight reads, cutting underneath the defender with such sharpness, explosiveness and body control that he pops right out of it and accelerates for some run after catch. However if you get him the football on routes that see him running into spaces on the field, ones that depend on a zone or off defender coming down on him, don't be surprised to see him break that tackle at 6'2" & 217 lbs with all that strength and explosiveness. He runs athletically with agility and speed, in addition to the power.

Strong fits Miami's offense precisely because of how dependable he can be at 1) running his routes to a spot, 2) securing the football, and 3) running after the catch on the go.
 
He reminds me a lot of Muhsin Muhammed. Not gonna blow by most corners, but he has a big frame and great hands to catch the ball in traffic. He goes up and gets the contested ball as well as anyone in the draft, and I think (if Davante Parker is gone) he will be one of the best players available at 14, and I think he should be the pick.... That's again, if Parker is gone.
I just don't understand the logic in saying you would draft a player at 14, but not at 20. If you love a player and think he can be a great starter in the league for a decade plus, what difference does 5-6 spots really make? If Strong ends up being the big, playmaking, red zone threat that we need, are we really gonna look back and say "ehhhh we shouldve traded down."? Absolutely not.
I absolutely love Davante Parker, and I want him if he's there, but Strong (to me) is a similar talent. When you put the tape on, you can tell that Strong is actually able to create separation down the field, but his QB undertrhew him and missed him so much that it made it look like he wasn't getting open very well. The kid is a beast, I'd be happy with him at 14.
 
His 4.44 official in the 40, which will be recorded as a 4.38 or 4.39 on some teams' stopwatches, was not surprising. I kept telling people he would run faster than everyone thinks. On film he shows deceptive speed and separates vertically against defenders that were deceived into thinking he is slower than he really is. That happened in the Duke game, among others.

He's made more and more impressive contested and high point catches than a DeVante Parker, but suffers a little bit from the East Coast bias. His ability to find the football in the air and play it are very impressive. He can jump through the stadium roof, too.

Unlike a DeVante Parker, I think Jaelen Strong actually runs routes. He actually pops out of his break and can get moving horizontally, accelerating well. You like him for an offense that depends on receivers getting to a spot, whereas a DeVante Parker I think is going to play the man a little bit more (often getting into hand fights that could see him flagged for offensive pass interference).

I consider him a good RAC player, but Jaelen is not the type that is going to run a man cover beater with sight reads, cutting underneath the defender with such sharpness, explosiveness and body control that he pops right out of it and accelerates for some run after catch. However if you get him the football on routes that see him running into spaces on the field, ones that depend on a zone or off defender coming down on him, don't be surprised to see him break that tackle at 6'2" & 217 lbs with all that strength and explosiveness. He runs athletically with agility and speed, in addition to the power.

Strong fits Miami's offense precisely because of how dependable he can be at 1) running his routes to a spot, 2) securing the football, and 3) running after the catch on the go.
So CK...is it safe to assume you wouldn't be too terribly upset if we drafted him?
 
So CK...is it safe to assume you wouldn't be too terribly upset if we drafted him?

I think there are excellent receivers in this draft in Dorial Green-Beckham, Kevin White, Amari Cooper, Jaelen Strong, Devin Smith and Nelson Agholor and I'm not particularly inclined to go attack dog on a team for taking any one of those guys pretty much regardless of where they take them.
 
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