http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1h2m2_jamarcus-russell
"Make it Rain"
The man throws with such ease and
can make all the throws. Good mechanics, mobile in the pocket . . . and he is accurate as hell. I just need understanding on if this guy slips out the top 3, why shouldn't we be jumping up and down trying to get him. Do people really think he is too dumb to be an NFL QB?
p.s. Dwayne Bowe would be welcomed as a fin.
How can you say that when there isn't a single short or intermediate route in that video (actually there is ONE, before people accuse me of making stuff up to make him look bad), every single pass is a deep ball to the outside, and the few that were in the middle of the field were the same exact route every single time, and if you look he stares down the intended receiver from the snap to the throw, I didn't see him look off anyone or check to a different guy, he is locked on to the guy who he ends up throwing to the entire time on every one of those passes. Also, that video doesn't show it as much, but every "analyst" video I have seen (ones where they show the positves and negatives) has had him never setting his feet the same way twice and 95% of the time he is throwing off his back heel. Those are TERRIBLE mechanics.
The video basically supports what I have been trying to tell everyone who raves about him all along, which is the offense was tailored to him at LSU, the coaches have even said that. It featured outside deep stuff where he could just bomb it out because he struggled with the short and intermediate crossing stuff where he had to use multiple check downs and reads, and as you saw (or DIDN'T see) in that video, everything was deep and almost exclusively to the outside. As someone in this thread already stated, he struggled against COLLEGE defenses, what will he do in the NFL where making a gameplan that takes out the throws you struggle with and featuring only the ones you thrive at will never work, especially when it means taking out all of the short and mid-range stuff. Defenses will pick this kid apart when they know that he will either only be throwing deep stuff or if he does throw the shorter stuff he struggles.
Conversely, you look at Quinn's video and you see him making all the throws Russell does (deep stuff placed only where his guys can get it) in addition to all the short and intermediate stuff, and his scrambling skills are just as good (if not better) than Russells, aside from the fact that he isn't 265+ and won't be bowling over guys like Russell did on that one run in the video, which isn't something I want my QB doing anyway.
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I'm just not getting where all this love for Russell is coming from when he struggled against defenses in LSU's intended system and needed it tailored, he wasn't even named the starter til this year, nobody was talking about him BEFORE this year, really before the Sugar Bowl, not to mention the reports of him being lazy and not having a great work ethic.
Conversely you take a guy like Quinn who has excelled all 4 years at Notre Dame, with two completely different offenses, who never went into camp having to battle for his position, who would have been the #1 QB last year had he come out (which makes me laugh that "experts" on the draft shows now say he isn't better than any of the guys from last years class when those same "experts" last year were saying "he'd be the #1 QB taken if he came out, he's THAT good"), and who has an amazing work ethic both in the weight room and practices and the film room.
Everyone knows Russell has a cannon arm and is a huge guy, but I'm sorry, I need a QB that is a student of the game over a QB who will just air it out to the deepest guy all the time. I want a QB who fully understands every single play and every single players responsibility on that play and every single defense that will be thrown at him so he can perform all the adjustments and checks at the line, and then after the snap too (like Manning, just not as exaggerated as he does it, lol). People are so impressed by his stats, but honestly, Quinn has VERY similar stats (which have already been fully written out in other threads, most notably CK's comparison thread) and that impresses me more because he got them spreading the ball around and making all the throws to all the areas of the field, not just bombing the ball out there like Russell did. Of course Russell will have huge yards and lots of TDs and great TD- and yards-per-attempt ratios, how hard is that to do when every throw you attempt is 25 or 30+ yards? I GARUNTEE his numbers wouldn't be that high if he had to make over-the-middle stuff into traffic, or had to do all the quick, short throws, as all of those are neccesities, but lower your stats since a short pass never usually goes for a TD while long bombs usually do, or at least pick you up a MASSIVE chunk of yards. So Quinn, who has similar stats (including more TDs than Russell and Stanton COMBINED), was the more impressive of the two being that he got those high numbers with actual cerebral QB play not just bombing balls to deep WRs.
This same thing happened with Vince Young and Matt Leinert last year. Same EXACT thing actually now that I think about it. Matt was the consensus #1 overall QB had he come out (like Quinn) but he decided to stay and still had a great year but suddenly here's Vince Young (Who I love to death because he won my Longhorns a title, but by no means do I think he is the best QB) impressing all year with his heroics (that ISN'T similar because Russell wasn't doing that this year) but in a "dumbed down" offense (like Russell) and then the two meet in the national championship and Vince outshines Leinert and BOOM, Vince is now the #1 QB and Leinert is slipping (JUST like Quinn and Russell's situation in the Sugar Bowl). Problem is, Leinert is still the better QUARTERBACK, while Vince is the better highlight reel. Again, I love Vince, and I can't stand Leinert (because of his "Hollywood" attitude and the fact that he played for USC, whom I hate), but Leinert is the better QB in terms of quarterbacking, like making ALL the throws and being able to do all the checks and changes and read everything and make smart decisions, whereas Young still resorts to making stuff happen with his feet when he gets nervous of his first reead isn't open.
It's just stupid. EVERYONE, both experts and fans, had Quinn as the best QB if he came out as a junior, making him better than Young, Leinert, Cutler, etc, but he decided to stay (to learn more from a great coach mind you, NOT for another title and more glory like Leinert stayed for) and now this year suddenly everyone SLAMS the guy and is saying if he came out last year he wouldn't have even been in the same league as "the big three" :rolleyes2. It's a tired arguement, and this happens EVERY SINGLE YEAR, people go ga-ga over a workout wonder or a bowl game stud, completely ignoring what he did (or DIDN'T do) the entire season, and his entire career, before that.
So to wrap this up, let Oakland take him, Russell and Moss are made for each other, the cherry-pickers they are, and they'll both be happy because they'll make each other look good (WAY better than they really are), and there will be NO chance that we would make the huge mistake of taking him, because if that happened I'd be more pissed than when we passed on Brees for Jamar Fletcher, and I can't even describe how pissed I was when that happened.
And yes, Dwayne Bowe WOULD be welcomed as a fin :up:
