Jason Allen

[NyPhan23]

Well, it's hard to believe... but i dont see any jason allen threads out there yet, so i figured i'd throw one up. What does everyone think of the improved play of Allen? I thought he really looked like he was just starting to play and not think so much. Whether that's enough to secure him a starting position next year idk... but i think he's starting to come into his own.

 

[Crzynick25]

He looked great against the run making a lot of tackles, but he still seems to be burned in the passing games

 

[Conuficus]

He takes bad angles and is still somewhat slow to diagnose information - basically he is not very intuitive IMO. he has all the atlent in the world, he just doesn't process the info fast enough. if he can improve that part of his game then everything else will fall into place.

 

[HaRdKoReXXX]

JA improved steadily throughout the year. Go figure, you throw a guy out there who is a 1st round pick and he makes some plays. I'm very interested to see how he plays next season.

 

[motormeat0170]

I think the kid has the physical skills, but he appears to be a fairly slow learner.... It'd be nice if he broke out in camp this year, but with a new scheme coming in again, I won't hold my breath....

 

[Captain Lou]

I think the kid has the physical skills, but he appears to be a fairly slow learner.... It'd be nice if he broke out in camp this year, but with a new scheme coming in again, I won't hold my breath....

Ouch, an new scheme doesn't bode well for him. :unsure:

 

[dolpns13]

Ouch, an new scheme doesn't bode well for him. :unsure:

the old schemes didnt bode well for him either (or the most part).

 

[shula_guy]

He did show improvment hopefully he will show more next season, enough to at least justify him being taken in the draft. He has the physical abilities and instiincts can be taught so hopefully he will mature into a justified first round draft pick. I find it hard to believe that Saban could completly missjudge him so Im holding out hope on the kid.

 

[lbmclean_sj]

the Atari Bigby fiasco makes me think that our defense is not geared to letting the safeties read and react

look how long it took Bell to blossom

I think Allen will keep growing and match Bell's pre-injury play

 

[Roman529]

I think this upcoming year will be his year to shine. Some guys have all the physical tools but it takes them a while to grasp things in the NFL. When you are constantly changing coaches and going back and forth from the CB to S position, it cannot be good for you. I think J-Allen, W-Allen, and Y-Bell should all be healthy and ready next year....I still hope we draft a couple d-backs or maybe bring in an Assante Samuel. Antoine Cason or Aqib Talib from Kansas would be a nice draft pickup as well.

 

[SabanHater]

year three. correct?
this is the time to find out if he was a mistake or not.
the way Cromartie has been playing is already showing signs of being one.

 

[PhinsPhan122]

His good play in the 2nd half of the season is still a trend to me. If he can play that way for an entire season then I will say he is solid.

 

[BobDole]

the insanely complicated defensive schemes killed him in the beginning. once we simplified our defense this last year, he began to show signs of why saban picked him up in the first round. i think he will start next year and do great, as long as he understands the defense. the dude is a superior athlete, afterall.

 

[MDFINFAN]

He did show improvment hopefully he will show more next season, enough to at least justify him being taken in the draft. He has the physical abilities and instiincts can be taught so hopefully he will mature into a justified first round draft pick. I find it hard to believe that Saban could completly missjudge him so Im holding out hope on the kid.

:unsure: That's a first, usually techique is taught and instincts takes over.

 

[DrunkenFan]

Allen was drafted for his versatility, and Saban hoped to turn him into a DB/CB hybrid, so Saban trying to teach him two positions at once obvioulsy hurt him. Putting him at CB was the next bad move since I could've told you from the get-go that he wasn't fit to be an every down corner.

He made some plays when he was switched this year, but people need to remember the only reason he was playing was because of injury, and a guy we signed off the street, Lance Schulters, came in and immediatley equaled and, in many respects, surpassed Allen's production.

Allen was caught out of position this year more times than not, and celebrating after making tackles 8 yards after the fact, I'm sure, didn't impress Parcells.

If he's to make it in this league then he needs to dedicate himself to getting into position on pass coverage. There are plenty of safeties that would come a lot cheaper than Allen that could easily do what he does.