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Hey... I am looking for the following combine numbers for Allen... can someone help me out?

10-yard dash
20-yard dash
20-yard shuttle
3-cone drill: 6.75
225-lb. bench
40-yard dash: 4.39
Vertical jump: 39 1/2"

I found those 3... but thats it... anyone know?
 
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Miami Dolphins
Round 1, Pick 16
Bob Leverone/TSN
Overall grade: 8.0
Position rank: 2
NFL comparison:
Troy Vincent, Bills


JASON ALLEN MEASURABLES
Height: 6-0 Weight: 213
40-yard dash: 4.39 10-yard dash: 1.46
20-yard shuttle: 3.81 60-yard shuttle: 11.17
Broad jump: 10-11 225-lb. bench: 17
3-cone drill: 6.75 Vertical jump: 39
Wonderlic: 11 20-yard dash: 2.52

KEY » * Recently updated Position grade increased Position grade decreased
Jason Allen
S, Tennessee

War Room analysis
Strengths: Is a playmaker who uses his long arms, leaping ability and strength to win jump balls and take away passes. Plays well against the run and in coverage. Has decent speed, good burst and great ball skills. Is tall and smooth and can turn and run with receivers. Fills the hole hard against the run, tackles well in the open field and uses his size to make big hits. Excels at redirecting receivers at the line of scrimmage. Is comfortable playing in the tackle box. Can shed blockers.

Weaknesses: A dislocated hip ended his senior season, raising questions about his durability. Is a bit of a 'tweener; lacks elite speed to play cornerback. Must improve at open-field tackling and playing in space to become an elite safety. Lacks great pre-snap recognition. Relies too much on his athletic ability in coverage.

Bottom line: Allen has a lot of potential and projects highly as both a cornerback and safety. However, his hip injury prevented him from playing in all-star games. His ability is unquestioned, and he was a first-round prospect before the injury. But, with him proving during his workouts that he is over his injury, Allen projects as an early second-rounder.

Post-draft analysis:

Allen has been a fast-riser up the boards since the Combine. He's an outstanding athlete with great speed, versatility and ball skills. He has played both corner and safety, and the Dolphins have needs at both positions.

Dan Pompei analysis
Is a safety/cornerback 'tweener whose draft stock is tied to the condition of his hip, which was dislocated in the fifth game of the '05 season. Performed pretty well at safety and cornerback in college. Could be a safety on first and second down and then play cornerback on passing downs. Has outstanding ability. Is smooth and athletic. Can run and jump. Is physical, and likes to tackle. Closes well on the ball. Is comfortable in zone or man-to-man. Has the size to matchup with tall receivers. Performed well at pre-draft workouts. Bites on play-action fakes at times. Could be more aggressive.
No. 2 on Pompei's safety rankings

Correspondent Analysis

Some teams had taken Allen off their draft board as an injury risk. However, before the injury, Allen was considered just a shade below Texas' Michael Huff as the top safety in the college game.

Allen is an excellent tackler and will get a chance to start right away. He would like to get a chance to play cornerback, and the team may let him try it.-- Jason Cole
 
dan the fin said:
DRAFTED!

Miami Dolphins
Round 1, Pick 16
Bob Leverone/TSN
Overall grade: 8.0
Position rank: 2
NFL comparison:
Troy Vincent, Bills


JASON ALLEN MEASURABLES
Height: 6-0 Weight: 213
40-yard dash: 4.39 10-yard dash: 1.46
20-yard shuttle: 3.81 60-yard shuttle: 11.17
Broad jump: 10-11 225-lb. bench: 17
3-cone drill: 6.75 Vertical jump: 39
Wonderlic: 11 20-yard dash: 2.52

KEY » * Recently updated Position grade increased Position grade decreased
Jason Allen
S, Tennessee

War Room analysis
Strengths: Is a playmaker who uses his long arms, leaping ability and strength to win jump balls and take away passes. Plays well against the run and in coverage. Has decent speed, good burst and great ball skills. Is tall and smooth and can turn and run with receivers. Fills the hole hard against the run, tackles well in the open field and uses his size to make big hits. Excels at redirecting receivers at the line of scrimmage. Is comfortable playing in the tackle box. Can shed blockers.

Weaknesses: A dislocated hip ended his senior season, raising questions about his durability. Is a bit of a 'tweener; lacks elite speed to play cornerback. Must improve at open-field tackling and playing in space to become an elite safety. Lacks great pre-snap recognition. Relies too much on his athletic ability in coverage.

Bottom line: Allen has a lot of potential and projects highly as both a cornerback and safety. However, his hip injury prevented him from playing in all-star games. His ability is unquestioned, and he was a first-round prospect before the injury. But, with him proving during his workouts that he is over his injury, Allen projects as an early second-rounder.

Post-draft analysis:

Allen has been a fast-riser up the boards since the Combine. He's an outstanding athlete with great speed, versatility and ball skills. He has played both corner and safety, and the Dolphins have needs at both positions.

Dan Pompei analysis
Is a safety/cornerback 'tweener whose draft stock is tied to the condition of his hip, which was dislocated in the fifth game of the '05 season. Performed pretty well at safety and cornerback in college. Could be a safety on first and second down and then play cornerback on passing downs. Has outstanding ability. Is smooth and athletic. Can run and jump. Is physical, and likes to tackle. Closes well on the ball. Is comfortable in zone or man-to-man. Has the size to matchup with tall receivers. Performed well at pre-draft workouts. Bites on play-action fakes at times. Could be more aggressive.
No. 2 on Pompei's safety rankings

Correspondent Analysis

Some teams had taken Allen off their draft board as an injury risk. However, before the injury, Allen was considered just a shade below Texas' Michael Huff as the top safety in the college game.

Allen is an excellent tackler and will get a chance to start right away. He would like to get a chance to play cornerback, and the team may let him try it.-- Jason Cole
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Got a link? I am trying to prove that Allen is more athletic than Huff...
 
I wonder how Allen's combine numbers match up to Palumalu's, the guy Allen is most often compared to here...
 
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Oakland Raiders
Round 1, Pick 7
Robert Seale/TSN
Overall grade: 8.5
Position rank: 1
225lb bench: 8
NFL comparison:
Troy Polamalu, Steelers


MICHAEL HUFF MEASURABLES
Height: 5-11 Weight: 198
40-yard dash: 4.34 10-yard dash: 1.47
20-yard shuttle: 3.96 60-yard shuttle:
Broad jump: 10-5 225-lb. bench: 21
3-cone drill: 6.68 Vertical jump: 40
Wonderlic: 16 20-yard dash: 2.52

KEY » * Recently updated Position grade increased Position grade decreased
Michael Huff
S, Texas

War Room analysis
Coverage skills: Started at cornerback early in his career; can play press coverage and jam receivers at the line. Is above-average in man-to-man coverage; can contribute in subpackages and line up against slot receivers. Is a solid deep defender. Takes good angles to the ball. Grade: 8.1.

Run/pass recognition: Is an intelligent defender. Reads his keys and diagnoses plays quickly. Doesn't bite on play-action fakes. Reacts quickly and puts himself in position to make plays. Grade: 8.3.

Closing speed: Gets a great jump on the ball and packs a punch; can separate receivers from the ball. Stiff hips slow him down in transition, but closing speed helps him get back into the play. Grade: 8.1.

Ball skills: Is active when the ball is in the air; shows great body control and catches the ball at its highest point. Consistently gets a hand on the ball. Reads the quarterback's eyes. Struggles to outjump larger receivers and tight ends. Grade: 8.4.

Run support: Is a ferocious run defender with great instincts. Can make plays from sideline to sideline. Is stronger than his frame indicates and can shed blockers to get to the ball carrier. Hits like a linebacker. Is comfortable being the eighth defender in the box. Makes plays in the open field. Sometimes fills too hard and overpursues. Grade: 8.4.

Bottom line: Huff is a complete player. He has the ability to play cornerback in the NFL, but he projects much higher as a safety. He is the top safety prospect in the draft because of his versatility, and could possibly be selected as one of the top 10 players overall.

Post-draft analysis:

The Raiders need to infuse speed and talent on their defense. Huff is a physical specimen who has played corner and safety, but projects more as a safety for the Raiders. Defensive coordinator Rob Ryan has tried to implement the 46 defense there, but has lacked the playmaking "46" safety to run the system effectively. Huff could be that guy.

Dan Pompei analysis
NFL teams are split on whether Huff is a safety or cornerback. Has the athleticism and size to do either. Is fluid and fast. Flips his hips easily to change directions quickly. As a cornerback, would be best suited in a cover-2 scheme. Is aggressive and covers a lot of territory. Can shut down a tight end. Has the intelligence to make all the secondary calls. Is loved by coaches. Is a solid tackler, but isn't real explosive on contact. Is comparable to the Ravens' Chris McAlister.
No. 1 on Pompei's safety rankings

Correspondent Analysis
Regarded by many as the best talent in the draft. He has exceptional speed, great instincts and the versatility to play cornerback, safety or a hybrid role. He plays well against top-flight competition and doesn’t have bad games or stretches.

Huff is expected to compete against incumbent Derrick Gibson for a starting spot at strong safety. The Raiders will find a spot for Huff because they lost cornerback Charles Woodson and safety Renaldo Hill to free agency. He is a Woodson-type player who gives the Raiders a lot of attractive options on a suspect defense.
 
dan the fin said:
DRAFTED!

Oakland Raiders
Round 1, Pick 7
Robert Seale/TSN
Overall grade: 8.5
Position rank: 1
225lb bench: 8
NFL comparison:
Troy Polamalu, Steelers


MICHAEL HUFF MEASURABLES
Height: 5-11 Weight: 198
40-yard dash: 4.34 10-yard dash: 1.47
20-yard shuttle: 3.96 60-yard shuttle:
Broad jump: 10-5 225-lb. bench: 21
3-cone drill: 6.68 Vertical jump: 40
Wonderlic: 16 20-yard dash: 2.52

KEY » * Recently updated Position grade increased Position grade decreased
Michael Huff
S, Texas

War Room analysis
Coverage skills: Started at cornerback early in his career; can play press coverage and jam receivers at the line. Is above-average in man-to-man coverage; can contribute in subpackages and line up against slot receivers. Is a solid deep defender. Takes good angles to the ball. Grade: 8.1.

Run/pass recognition: Is an intelligent defender. Reads his keys and diagnoses plays quickly. Doesn't bite on play-action fakes. Reacts quickly and puts himself in position to make plays. Grade: 8.3.

Closing speed: Gets a great jump on the ball and packs a punch; can separate receivers from the ball. Stiff hips slow him down in transition, but closing speed helps him get back into the play. Grade: 8.1.

Ball skills: Is active when the ball is in the air; shows great body control and catches the ball at its highest point. Consistently gets a hand on the ball. Reads the quarterback's eyes. Struggles to outjump larger receivers and tight ends. Grade: 8.4.

Run support: Is a ferocious run defender with great instincts. Can make plays from sideline to sideline. Is stronger than his frame indicates and can shed blockers to get to the ball carrier. Hits like a linebacker. Is comfortable being the eighth defender in the box. Makes plays in the open field. Sometimes fills too hard and overpursues. Grade: 8.4.

Bottom line: Huff is a complete player. He has the ability to play cornerback in the NFL, but he projects much higher as a safety. He is the top safety prospect in the draft because of his versatility, and could possibly be selected as one of the top 10 players overall.

Post-draft analysis:

The Raiders need to infuse speed and talent on their defense. Huff is a physical specimen who has played corner and safety, but projects more as a safety for the Raiders. Defensive coordinator Rob Ryan has tried to implement the 46 defense there, but has lacked the playmaking "46" safety to run the system effectively. Huff could be that guy.

Dan Pompei analysis
NFL teams are split on whether Huff is a safety or cornerback. Has the athleticism and size to do either. Is fluid and fast. Flips his hips easily to change directions quickly. As a cornerback, would be best suited in a cover-2 scheme. Is aggressive and covers a lot of territory. Can shut down a tight end. Has the intelligence to make all the secondary calls. Is loved by coaches. Is a solid tackler, but isn't real explosive on contact. Is comparable to the Ravens' Chris McAlister.
No. 1 on Pompei's safety rankings

Correspondent Analysis
Regarded by many as the best talent in the draft. He has exceptional speed, great instincts and the versatility to play cornerback, safety or a hybrid role. He plays well against top-flight competition and doesn’t have bad games or stretches.

Huff is expected to compete against incumbent Derrick Gibson for a starting spot at strong safety. The Raiders will find a spot for Huff because they lost cornerback Charles Woodson and safety Renaldo Hill to free agency. He is a Woodson-type player who gives the Raiders a lot of attractive options on a suspect defense.
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are you sure Huff only bench pressed 8 times?
 
Sorry Link will not do u any good it is Sporting News War Room. It is a pay site I think it is 40 per year. Great Site though for draft info, plus it breaks down all the matchups during the season also.

As far as who is more atlitic it is very close, Huffs 40ty is a little better but Allens 20 yard shuffle was the fastest in the Draft. But Huff and Allens #'s are almost identical. Overall they were by far the most Ahtletic Safteys in the draft.
 
FinNasty said:
are you sure Huff only bench pressed 8 times?
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Check a couple of lines down under "Michael Huff measurables" It shows he pressed 225 21 times.

The line above must have been a misprint...... it had to be! :lol:
 
FinNasty said:
are you sure Huff only bench pressed 8 times?
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Sorrythat is some sort of weird ranking thing I don't know how they do it. Look under the part that says Measurables andthat is how many times he did the bench, wich was 21 Allen did 17.
 
According to the Master Combine Report reported by TFY, he had the following stats:

Some of these stats, the players did 2 repetitions. I've listed the best of the times/measurements, and listed the other attempt in parenthesis.

Jason Allen
Ht: 6007
Wt: 209
BP: 17
BJ: 10'11" (10'9")
VJ: 39.5"
10: 1.51 (1.52)
20: 2.56 (2.58)
40: 4.41 (4.43)
SS: 3.81 (3.85)
LS: 11.17 (11.19)
3C: 6.75 (6.79)

Michael Huff
Ht: 6000
Wt: 204
BP: 21
BJ: 10'5" (10'3")
VJ: 40.5"
10: 1.51 (1.54)
20: 2.56 (2.57)
40: 4.37 (4.35)
SS: 3.96
LS: INJ (INJ)
3C: 6.68


So all in all he's an inch and 5 pounds smaller, and is in turn generally about a few one-hundredths of a second faster in the 40. He can jump an inch higher but his broad jump isn't nearly as good. He did 4 more reps on the 225 pound bar. He has 31.4" arms and 8.75" hands, compared to Allen's 31.5" arms and 8.0" hands. Allen had a better shuttle, Huff had a better cone.

The caveat is the shuttle and cone times for Huff were NOT performed at the Combine...so they might not be quite apples to apples.

All in all, Huff is not quite the same as Allen when you combine all the stats.
 
I stand by TFY's master combine report. Michael Huff weighed in at 6'0" and 204 pounds, not 5'11" and 198 pounds.
 
The 20 yard shuttle is the same thing as the short shuttle... right?
 
They are both amazing talents for the Saftey position thats for sure. I believe that both will be exallent. Allen has the advantage of better coaching I think
 
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