Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by finomenal, Apr 19, 2017.
Reported by WAXY, 790 The Ticket in Miami.
Excellent news if it goes through :up:
Anybody but the *** wipes who own it now.
The Marlins killed my fandom and developing love for baseball after the 2nd World Series win in 2003. I haven't cared about the team or the sport much since then. I refuse to invest my time and emotions into them. They run the team based on profitability only. Nothing wrong with making money, but if you're not truly trying to build something and win, then it's a waste of my time. Miami deserves a competent ownership team. That stadium did cost quite a lot to build, for one. They've also been teasing gullible Marlins fans for a long time now. Enough is enough.
Reports: Derek Jeter, Jeb Bush group agrees on deal to buy Marlins from Jeffrey Loria
Barry is saying it as well
Can confirm, per MLB source, that Marlins are moving forward with the Jeb Bush/Jeter group and are optimistic deal will be reached for sale
— Barry Jackson (@flasportsbuzz) April 25, 2017
Meh. The Marlins made me dislike baseball
I'm still a Marlins fan after all of the years of craziness, and am overjoyed at the prospect of a new ownership group. :up:
Kinda wish the new ownership group would simplify that ridiculous multicolor M logo they have now, but I think that ship has sailed for the next decade or so.
That is borderline exciting news. It will be interesting to see Jeter's involvement.
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Same here. The fire sale after 2003 was it for me.
Should be the Marlin's owner made me dislike baseball. I hate that prick for what he's done over the years and am thrilled about having new management ... any new management.
I use to go to the games and even played a round of charity golf with Rene Lachemann the first manager back in the 90's.
The long nightmare is almost over!!!
Hopefully Jeb will be a better owner than he was a governor. But then again, Loria and his pipsqueak son in law set such a low watermark that it would be hard for him to be worse. Jeter's BB smarts hopefully will translate into oversight and that he plays the major role in club operations.
The fact that Loria makes out like a bandit doesn’t really phase me. He’s gone. He’s ****ing gone and can’t ruin Miami sports anymore. This is a day of celebration.
At least people that like Baseball will be in charge.
I'm interested to see how much the ownership is divvied up by, especially for Jeter
If it's a Marc Anthony/J-Lo/Fergie thing and they own a fraction of a percent of the team, then what does it matter beyond name recognition?
Regardless, I'm glad Jeffery Loria is getting gone.
It sound like it a total sell not just celebrity window dressing Adam. Hope so.
Loria basically turned a 12M investment in the Expos into $1.3B. That's nauseating. The worst owner in sports was basically given two different franchises and ran both into the ground while turning an absurd profit.
I don't care much for baseball but I will say this about the current owner. At least he got that team out of the Dolphins stadium.
No, the tax payers of Miami paid for that stadium. Loria put up less than 20% of the cost.
The joke of that is that the value of that stadium he did not pay for increases his net worth substantially by increasing the value of the team. So he gets to sell the Marlins now and be paid the value of a stadium that was given to him by the tax payers.
Corporate welfare, how does it work?
According to Barry both Bush and Jeter plan on being very involved with the team.
I don't care who paid for it. It happened under his ownership so that means he is the one who wanted a new stadium. Credit goes to him and his underlings for getting the city to pay for it. Either way I am glad they are gone.
I am wondering who footed the majority of the bill. Bush and Jeter do not have close to a billion dollars.
They are the marquee names but it's probably a group of investors that want to remain anonymous some of whom could piss a billion buck.
Looks like sale is finally complete
... The Marlins:
Terrible. We're officially a farm team for the Yankees now.
Hey Jeter, we will always have 2003, you ****ing **** sucker.
Hey tried to trade Stanton to two other teams but he refused to play for those teams.
What did you expect?
Oh please. That was lip service to justify trading him to the Yankees.
The more "highly regarded" of the two best prospects is the *9th best* in the yankees farm system. :/
Not sure how people can continue to root for this team anymore.
You can't fault Jeter at all for this.
If all you care about is going (or not going) to the game to watch Stanton hit homers, then keeping him in Miami would of been the best move.
That payroll was ridiculous . . .unmanageable. The team had ZERO pitching. They were going nowhere with Stanton.
The best move of course was blowing it up, as much as I hate to say it. Loria and Samson gave out terrible contracts to I guess make the team more sellable.
Mission accomplished, now Jeter will take the blame but he will certainly get the accolades for turning it around.
And sure I only went to 3 games this year, but I bet that is better than most. I had a good time each time and we lost 2 of those 3 games, and Stanton was terrible in all 3 games . . . And I still had a good time because I like baseball and would still go whether he is there or not.
So rebuild the farm system, develop the talent and resurface in two or 3 years with a young, competitive team than can reignite the fanbase and the area . . . Because the next 2 years will be grim for sure.
I feel guilty being excited about this because of the nothing the yanks gave up. Castro and a few prospects? Thanks Jetes ... *winks*.
This team should murder the all time team HR total this year. Batting order should be fun for the new skip.
Yeah at the end of the day, the trades had to happen. Sure it's disheartening that this is the 4th firesale in the franchise's young history which sucks, and Stanton didn't exactly bring a big haul back, but I think this was more taking a bad situation and trying to rebuild fresh where the previous ones have all been shear salary dumps.
Sucks, but necessary
You do a fire sale or salary dump to get rid of players who are not worth the contract or would hinder further development. This firesale is a financial necessity. Sherman and Jeter don't have money. They are still looking for investors to meet their basic financial obligations. How MLB ever approved this sale is beyond me. The Marlins went from **** into deep ****.
And sorry KDawk, no matter how great you make the farm system once the players are developed they will be sold off. Jeter is worth an estimated 180 Mill and Sherman at 500 Mill. Their cash on hand is probably around 50% of that. The Marlins alone cost 1.2 Billion. These two can't afford crap.
I do agree that the approval of sale to Jeter's group was extremely shortsighted and MLB still went ahead and approved it.
But that payroll was top 5 for 2018 and the farm system was bottom 5 . . . Plus absolutely no pitching to speak of. Attendance is always bottom 5.
Smart businessmen want to make money, that was an obvious money pit if you didn't blow it up. Hell even Stephen Ross could of bought the team and seen that.
Just saying, there was no realistic situation where a big pocket owner was coming in and keeping that payroll the way it was with the complete lack of essentials all over the place. Huge losses.
To make money you have to invest money. Jeter and Sherman simply do not have the money. They don't even have the money to pay for the franchise much less invest in players. Oh yeah, but Jeter is making $5 Mill per year.
Creating a good to great farm system requires money. Where is that coming from? And when those players develop and hit their prime they have to be paid.
So from one owner who didn't have the capital to own the franchise to another who doesn't have the capital needed to own the franchise. The Marlins should just leave dade county and stop sucking tax payers money. This is the worst franchise in South Florida.
Yelich traded to the Brewers. They got a nice little haul including the Brewers top prospect.
I mean makes no sense at this point . . . You blew it up, go all the way in and leave no debris. i expect Realmuto to be next.
Get that top draft pick the next two years and come 2020 maybe we can show some signs of being competitive.
This team will lose 120 games this year. All the thrifty competitive teams went this route for a few seasons. Houston, Chicago Cubs come to mind.
I will still reserve judgement on this new group for a few years but yea most definitely they are the worst franchise in South FL. Hell it ain't close although the Panthers I thought were on the right track until the owners got ****y and got rid of Gallant because of a somewhat slow start last year and the fact that he didn't embrace their analytics. Such a dumb, premature move. Dude is killing it as Vegas first year coach.
I can and will blame Jeter for a lot of things, including the firing of Mr. Marlin, Jeff Conine.
It's a shame, because I do like going to baseball games sometimes, and we have yet another ownership group that needs to be thrown off a highway overpass.