Jets Fire Gm Adam Gase Steps In As His Replacement

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Sounds like they are some potentials for a new GM but they are all guys who are cool with Gase. Hopefully the Jets let Gase have one of his pals run the show because it will be a disaster.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26757725/jets-ship-lee-chiefs-gm-shake-up
NFL Radio this morning said they have a source close to the organization that says they already have the replacement in mind, and that it will essentially be Gase’s choice. Sounds like Gase will essentially have full control moving forward. While the move looks completely disfunctional now, he will finally have what he has always wanted and everyone will get to see whether or not he is the real deal. One thing’s for sure, if he can’t make it with full control, I think he will be out of the league for good. I agree with him on Bell, though...way too much for a RB.
 

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NFL Radio this morning said they have a source close to the organization that says they already have the replacement in mind, and that it will essentially be Gase’s choice. Sounds like Gase will essentially have full control moving forward. While the move looks completely disfunctional now, he will finally have what he has always wanted and everyone will get to see whether or not he is the real deal. One thing’s for sure, if he can’t make it with full control, I think he will be out of the league for good. I agree with him on Bell, though...way too much for a RB.
 

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A lot of folks here have ignored the fact that the Jets assistant GM has also been fired. When that happens on a team, it seems to me the next tier in the Organization chart for coordinating with a GM is the HC and that is where the temporary GM title lands until there is a new one.

I found it interesting to learn that this is the Jets owners 2nd year at the helm. He said he was much more involved with what was happening as the new season began and had watched the internal dynamics of his operation close up and that he said he decided a more strategic thinker at the GM position was required.

My conclusions, assuming that what the owner said is true (what he did certainly makes sense to me and should be the kind of review any CEO should be doing with their key management people) are:

1) In hiring Adam Gase the owner sent a message to anyone who was watching that there was a focus on not only the teams offensive play, but the decision making methodology they wanted in a head coach.
(I know a lot of folks on this board disagree with Gases play calling and offensive planning. They support their position by compare what Gase did to what they wanted done based solely on their presumptions of what we had and how it should be used. Those presumptions are just that, presumptions, nothing more and nothing less.)

2) Since the draft was coming up and most of the groundwork had already been done, it made sense to see how their GM could do as opposed to making a change in the GM position at that time without giving the candidate the time to organize the scouting department and outlining what was wanted from them.
  • By letting their GM follow through with the tremendous financial opportunity the Jets had and their strong draft positions and the opportunity to develop a strong relationship with their new HC; they gave him everything they could to help him succeed.
  • Since their GM had worked successfully at getting the Jets a serious QB last season, this was certainly a reasonable position to take.

3) After their draft, which wasn't too bad in my opinion, the owner determined that there needed to be improvements made in some aspect of how their GM managed things and for that reason they released him.
  • This was clearly not a knee jerk reaction or it would have happened immediately after the draft - not 3 weeks later.
The only effect I see that Adam Gase had in getting the Jets GM fired is that he represented the kind of decision making methodology the Jets owner wanted and his being there made it easy for the owner to compare how the GM and the HC did things, along with the details of why those approaches were taken. Keep in mind that many of the Jets posters wanted to get rid of their GM before Gase was even on the their team.

This all comes down to an owner looking at the inner workings of those folks managing his team and making decisions based on what he saw and moving towards how he wants his front office management to be run.
 

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A lot of folks here have ignored the fact that the Jets assistant GM has also been fired. When that happens on a team, it seems to me the next tier in the Organization chart for coordinating with a GM is the HC and that is where the temporary GM title lands until there is a new one.

I found it interesting to learn that this is the Jets owners 2nd year at the helm. He said he was much more involved with what was happening as the new season began and had watched the internal dynamics of his operation close up and that he said he decided a more strategic thinker at the GM position was required.

My conclusions, assuming that what the owner said is true (what he did certainly makes sense to me and should be the kind of review any CEO should be doing with their key management people) are:

1) In hiring Adam Gase the owner sent a message to anyone who was watching that there was a focus on not only the teams offensive play, but the decision making methodology they wanted in a head coach.
(I know a lot of folks on this board disagree with Gases play calling and offensive planning. They support their position by compare what Gase did to what they wanted done based solely on their presumptions of what we had and how it should be used. Those presumptions are just that, presumptions, nothing more and nothing less.)

2) Since the draft was coming up and most of the groundwork had already been done, it made sense to see how their GM could do as opposed to making a change in the GM position at that time without giving the candidate the time to organize the scouting department and outlining what was wanted from them.
  • By letting their GM follow through with the tremendous financial opportunity the Jets had and their strong draft positions and the opportunity to develop a strong relationship with their new HC; they gave him everything they could to help him succeed.
  • Since their GM had worked successfully at getting the Jets a serious QB last season, this was certainly a reasonable position to take.

3) After their draft, which wasn't too bad in my opinion, the owner determined that there needed to be improvements made in some aspect of how their GM managed things and for that reason they released him.
  • This was clearly not a knee jerk reaction or it would have happened immediately after the draft - not 3 weeks later.
The only effect I see that Adam Gase had in getting the Jets GM fired is that he represented the kind of decision making methodology the Jets owner wanted and his being there made it easy for the owner to compare how the GM and the HC did things, along with the details of why those approaches were taken. Keep in mind that many of the Jets posters wanted to get rid of their GM before Gase was even on the their team.

This all comes down to an owner looking at the inner workings of those folks managing his team and making decisions based on what he saw and moving towards how he wants his front office management to be run.
Hey Ray, I hope you and yours are doing well, but, it was a power struggle, Gase vs Mac, and Gase won. This "he said he decided a more strategic thinker at the GM position was required" is nonsense, this is very clearly A. Gase selling the owner on his magnificent abilities. Any GM they hire now will be UNDER Gase, which, if I was offered the job of GM under Bill B, I would take it in a New York minute, "Yes Mr B, coffee, yes sir Mr B, wash your hoodie, yes sir Mr B. Yup a couple of years, a few million just for being a glorified gofer, no problem Mr B.

But not ADAM STINKING GASE, the most psychologically challenged person in sports, you know that whoever the GM is, Gase will blame them for losses, bad draft picks, and sitting on the end of the bench. Gase has sold the owner on the gold at the end of the rainbow, but the only thing the Jests will get is unicorn vomit and farts.

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Hey Ray, I hope you and yours are doing well, but, it was a power struggle, Gase vs Mac, and Gase won. This "he said he decided a more strategic thinker at the GM position was required" is nonsense, this is very clearly A. Gase selling the owner on his magnificent abilities. Any GM they hire now will be UNDER Gase, which, if I was offered the job of GM under Bill B, I would take it in a New York minute, "Yes Mr B, coffee, yes sir Mr B, wash your hoodie, yes sir Mr B. Yup a couple of years, a few million just for being a glorified gofer, no problem Mr B.

But not ADAM STINKING GASE, the most psychologically challenged person in sports, you know that whoever the GM is, Gase will blame them for losses, bad draft picks, and sitting on the end of the bench. Gase has sold the owner on the gold at the end of the rainbow, but the only thing the Jests will get is unicorn vomit and farts.

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While I appreciate your spelling everything out to me, I'm pretty sure you've got it wrong.

Without either of us being on hand to see what really happened, all we can do is look at the information and try to determine which sources are the most credible.

I consider direct quotes to be the most credible information I can identify. Are they telling the truth? Maybe they are and maybe they aren't.

In either case they are a better source then an uninvolved third party's opinion or worse, someone who is paid by the excitement they can create writing their opinions, true or otherwise. For example, consider the performance of the National Enquirer or ESPN.

After I eliminated the opinions and the click-bate, I went with the direct quotes from the parties involved and gave my conclusions based on that.

For the record, I was and still am a big Adam Gase and Ryan Tannehill fan, but they aren't with the Dolphins anymore. I'm now most interested in how we do with our new GM, our new coaching staff and the men we will be evaluating for the next couple of months. I'm expecting an exciting year of NFL caliber football from this group and can hardly wait for the season to begin.

I will also be following Gase with the Jets and Tannehill with the Titans. I would like to see them do well, with the exception of any games they play against us.

I hope this clears up any questions you seem to have about my being a Dolphins fan and can appreciate that I realize these two men aren't playing for us any more.
 
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